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   From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com   
      
   On 12/15/25 17:55, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 12/15/25 5:08 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-13 18:29, pothead wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-12-14, rbowman  wrote:   
   >>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 16:55:03 -0500, -hh wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Wish that was the case, because I've lost some Dell laptops from   
   >>>>> swollen   
   >>>>> batteries at <3 years life:  it doesn't do much good to have   
   >>>>> upgradable   
   >>>>> RAM/SSD designs when the office IT Department then won't even touch   
   >>>>> replacing a battery: they just replace the whole kit 'n kaboodle with   
   >>>>> new, reimage it to set it up & migrate user data.  Ditto for broken   
   >>>>> smartphones too.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I was happy to see that the refurbished Lenovo T480 laptop I bought   
   >>>> allows   
   >>>> for cutting off the charging before the battery is completely full and   
   >>>> that there is a Linux cli utility to set the charge parameters.   
   >>>   
   >>> Lenovo is one of the best.   
   >>> Indestructable, business grade laptop designed to travel with you   
   >>> and keep working despite abuse.   
   >>> Make sure to keep the fan free from dust.   
   >>> Typical of most laptops.   
   >>   
   >> And to get that level of quality, you PAY for it.   
   >>   
   >> And people who pay it don't get accused of being "brainwashed", nor is   
   >> Lenovo accused of "extorting" them.   
   >   
   >   
   > If I wanted a laptop, Lenovo would be a good choice, though.  Apple   
   > would be an expensive choice.   
   >   
      
   Back in my Thinkpad era, the IBM ones were running close to $3K, and   
   Lenovo was $2-2.5K.  In today's dollars, that's quite a bit more.   
      
   Migrated then to Dell and these were still ballpark $1.5K but they'd die   
   every 3 years (if you were lucky), so a lifespan similar to the 'Pads   
   was still $3-4K.   
      
   Meantime, that Mac laptop that went seven years was $1350 (under   
   $200/yr), and last year's replacement for it (APMCX14LLA) was only   
   $1800.  Bottom line is better lifecycle cost versus their business PC   
   equivalents that I've used...   
      
   ...vastly better than my second to last Dell, a Latitude 7280 (i7 dual   
   core Koby Lake @ 2.8GHz; 16GB RAM & 256GB SSD) which ran ~$1500, but   
   lasted less than 3 years before its battery ballooned ($500+/yr).   
      
   -hh   
      
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