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   CrudeSausage to -hh   
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   15 Dec 25 20:15:09   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-12-15 5:54 p.m., -hh wrote:   
      
   >> What do current benchmarks show you between two comparable machines at   
   >> the same price?   
   >   
   > Don't know, as I'm not currently in the market for new hardware.   
   > What's your current PC do and when was it put into service?   
      
   Zephyrus G14 2021 with AMD R9 5900HS CPU and RTX3060 GPU. It's a 2021   
   model. The new 2TB NVMe is a Samsung 990 EVO. The Pro was only $10 more   
   but it used more power and I wouldn't have been able to use its full   
   speed anyway since my laptop's interface is a PCIe 3.0 x4.   
      
   >> I doubt providing less bang for the buck is part of what the Apple   
   >> stockholders want the company to offer. Higher profit margins, for   
   >> sure, but not an inevitable backlash from customers who eventually   
   >> realize that they're being ripped off.   
   >   
   > Apple has been 'pricey' since the Apple ][ shipped 45+ years ago, which   
   > suggests a different value paradigm than what you're assuming.   
      
   Jobs wanted to give people the impression that their machines were   
   premium by charging more. In the end, their machines weren't actually   
   capable of anything more than the competition, though I believe that the   
   Apple ][ felt more robust than machines from Atari and Commodore. Of   
   course, I wasn't old enough to even own one at the time, so I'm basing   
   myself on what other people have said.   
      
   >> Admittedly, I have yet to use an ARM-equipped machine with Windows 11.   
   >> I imagine it can't be that great if Dell is opting for Core 7 Ultra   
   >> rather than more Snapdragon X laptops.   
   >   
   > Which means that those customers will therefore gravitate to Apple,   
   > despite yon "less bang for the buck" insinuations.  Since they're voting   
   > with their wallet, their vote is quite credible.   
      
   I doubt that most people who buy Macs or PCs even have an idea of what   
   kind of processor it is equipped with.   
      
   >> With batteries, that might be the result of the offending part being   
   >> glued to other components. My own laptop allows me to replace my   
   >> battery fairly easily if I choose to do so, but I notice that quite a   
   >> few manufacturers are imitating Apple because of the thinness   
   >> obsession and gluing or soldering components.   
   >   
   > Which means that it isn't an "only Apple" thing.  And come to think of   
   > it, the battery in the most recent Mac laptop that I've retired was   
   > still unswollen and ~okay condition at the seven (7) year mark.  Doesn't   
   >   this observation also run counter to "less bang for the buck" claims?   
      
   Lithium-ion will swell no matter what. If it didn't happen with the   
   Apple laptop, I can only wonder what the origin of their lithium is and   
   why the batteries in Razer laptops seem to swell much faster.   
      
   --   
   CrudeSausage   
   John 14:6   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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