XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-12-16 1:08 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-16 06:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-15 9:44 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-12-15 17:15, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-12-15 5:54 p.m., -hh wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> What do current benchmarks show you between two comparable   
   >>>>>> machines at the same price?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Don't know, as I'm not currently in the market for new hardware.   
   >>>>> What's your current PC do and when was it put into service?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Zephyrus G14 2021 with AMD R9 5900HS CPU and RTX3060 GPU. It's a   
   >>>> 2021 model. The new 2TB NVMe is a Samsung 990 EVO. The Pro was only   
   >>>> $10 more but it used more power and I wouldn't have been able to use   
   >>>> its full speed anyway since my laptop's interface is a PCIe 3.0 x4.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I doubt providing less bang for the buck is part of what the Apple   
   >>>>>> stockholders want the company to offer. Higher profit margins, for   
   >>>>>> sure, but not an inevitable backlash from customers who eventually   
   >>>>>> realize that they're being ripped off.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Apple has been 'pricey' since the Apple ][ shipped 45+ years ago,   
   >>>>> which suggests a different value paradigm than what you're assuming.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Jobs wanted to give people the impression that their machines were   
   >>>> premium by charging more. In the end, their machines weren't   
   >>>> actually capable of anything more than the competition, though I   
   >>>> believe that the Apple ][ felt more robust than machines from Atari   
   >>>> and Commodore. Of course, I wasn't old enough to even own one at the   
   >>>> time, so I'm basing myself on what other people have said.   
   >>>   
   >>> What?   
   >>>   
   >>> Complete bullshit you just made up.   
   >>   
   >> Another quote, from Bing: "Steve Jobs had a strong belief in the value   
   >> of innovation and quality, which influenced his approach to pricing.   
   >> He often chose prices that were significantly higher than the cost of   
   >> production, reflecting his vision for creating products that combined   
   >> elegance and functionality. For example, the original Apple-1 computer   
   >> was priced at $666.66, which was a deliberate choice to emphasize the   
   >> product's uniqueness and the power of ideas behind it. Jobs's   
   >> philosophy was that by investing in quality and innovation, Apple   
   >> could command a premium price, positioning the company as a luxury   
   >> brand in the tech industry. "   
   >>   
   >> Here's another link to prove it:   
   >>   
   >> > strategy/>   
   >>   
   >> "1. Premium Pricing Strategy   
   >> One of the most significant ways Steve Jobs influenced Apple’s pricing   
   >> strategy was through the adoption of a premium pricing model. Jobs   
   >> firmly believed in creating products that combined elegance,   
   >> functionality, and innovation. This vision allowed Apple to position   
   >> itself as a luxury brand in the tech industry, similar to how high-end   
   >> fashion brands are priced higher due to their perceived value.   
   >>   
   >> Rather than competing on price, Apple focused on providing exceptional   
   >> design, user experience, and quality. This strategy enabled Apple to   
   >> charge a premium for its products while maintaining customer loyalty   
   >> and satisfaction. For example, the iPhone, which was launched in 2007,   
   >> was priced significantly higher than most other smartphones on the   
   >> market at the time. Jobs understood that customers were willing to pay   
   >> more for a product that not only functioned well but also looked and   
   >> felt superior. This pricing strategy reinforced Apple’s identity as a   
   >> premium brand, willing to sacrifice mass-market appeal for exclusivity   
   >> and quality."   
   >>   
   >> This is where you'll claim that my original sentence was structured in   
   >> such and such a way and that I'm still wrong. I've seen it before and   
   >> it's part of why I don't take you seriously.   
   >>   
   >   
   > What you've not shown are Jobs actual words, but rather others'   
   > interpretations.   
    >   
   > And offering higher quality for higher prices is not "giving people the   
   > impression of higher quality".   
      
   In other words, Alan is saying that even when he's proven wrong, he is   
   right.   
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   CrudeSausage   
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