XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Tyrone wrote:   
   > On Dec 15, 2025 at 11:23:47 PM EST, "Marian"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Tyrone wrote:   
   >>> All of this nonsense is literally a tempest in a tea cup.   
   >   
   >   
   >> This is tracking your movements whether or not Apple trolls understand it.   
   >   
   > No, it is tracking the movement of the router.  You don't know my real name   
   > AND you don't know where I live.   
   >   
   > AND, which is more likely? I bought a new router and sold the old one?  Or I   
   > bought a new house and sold the old one?   
   >   
   > You are the only stupid Apple Troll here. That you think the MAC address of a   
   > router identifies ME is beyond preposterous.   
   >   
   > You would have better luck tracking the MAC address of my iPhone.  Except   
   that   
   > my name is not attached to THAT either. It is a work phone, and the monthly   
   > bill is paid by the company. So only the company name is attached to it.   
   >   
   > Do yourself a favor. Go back to claiming that Apple sends out the entire iOS   
   > for every update, even if only 1 line of code was changed. It is totally and   
   > obviously wrong AND just another absurd-claim-of-the-day for you. But at   
   least   
   > it is theoretically possible.   
   >   
   > Speaking of which, I have 2 updates available on an M1 iPad Pro. One is for   
   > iPadOS 18.7.3.  It is a 433.8MB download.  The other is iPadOS 26.2.  It is a   
   > 6.1GB download.  Given your above absurd-claim-of-the-day, how do you explain   
   > the VAST size difference?   
      
      
   I am not going to respond to the personal remarks. They do not help the   
   discussion and they do not address the technical point I am raising.   
      
   The issue here is not whether someone anywhere in the world at any time   
   knows your name or whether you bought a new router. The issue is that my   
   access point was both hidden and marked nomap, yet it still appears in   
   Apple's WPS database with coordinates attached.   
      
   That means the system collected and stored the location of a device that   
   explicitly signaled it should not be mapped.   
      
   That is a design and implementation question, not a question of identity.   
      
   The concern is that anyone in the world can query the database and see the   
   location of an access point just makes that privacy hole worse.   
      
   Whether the router belongs to me, you, or anyone else is irrelevant.   
      
   The privacy expectation is that nomap and hidden SSIDs prevent this kind of   
   collection. The fact that they do not is the part most worth examining.   
      
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