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   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   > Marian wrote:   
   >> Chris wrote:   
   >>>> Alan Browne wrote:   
   >>>>> In my reply to the troll, I simply pointed out his narcissism and   
   >>>>> possible psychopathy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> My promise to you, and to anyone on this newsgroup (or in life), is:   
   >>>> *Act like an adult. I'll treat you as an adult.*   
   >>>   
   >>> Says the person who started a thread attacking a person's IQ. How is that   
   >>> being an adult?   
   >>   
   >> I've been civil to everyone here who has been civil, Chris.   
   >   
   > Untrue. I've been civil with you, yet you still chose to call me a troll.   
   >   
   > You may not like that I've challenged you to stick to your initial claim,   
   > but that does not mean I am uncivil. An "adult" would know that and not   
   > stoop to name calling.   
   >   
   > Would an adult start a whole off-topic thread simply to bully someone?   
   >   
   >> Ask Ant, for   
   >> example, or badgolferman, if I've ever been anything but respectful with   
   >> them.   
   >   
   > Well, Ant only really asks direct questions and badgolferman only   
   > contributes minimally and usually in tacit support of your wild claims.   
   > That's aside to his very useful monthly stats.   
   >   
   >> If you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult.   
   >> It's not complicated.   
   >   
   > With you it is always complicated.   
   >   
   >> I am here to discuss the technology, the data, and the implications.   
   >   
   > Only in your narrow terms and mostly as attempts to boost your own ego.   
      
   What I am asking of both you and Alan Browne (particularly of Alan Browne   
   since he left and returned so he's able to start fresh), is that we keep   
   the discussion on this ng at an adult, professional technical civil level.   
      
   My approach is simple: when people engage civilly, I respond in kind.   
      
   If they defend Apple to the death no matter what using inane factual   
   denials coupled with absurd illogical nonsensical excuses, I'll disagree.   
      
   But I've never disagreed with anyone who presents a logically sensible   
   statement, on this newsgroup, or on any newsgroup, as I care about fact.   
      
   People who present logically sensible viewpoints are acting like adults.   
   When people act like adults, I treat them like adults.   
      
   That's been my experience with Ant, with badgolferman, and with anyone else   
   who sticks to the technical topics without resorting to inane excuses.   
      
   While we all realize that no adult conversation is ever possible with some   
   of the people who post here whom we've plonked, I assess that both you and   
   Alan Browne are capable of contributing valuable technical insight here.   
      
   Likewise possibly with Haemactylus Tyrone & -hh, who also own the capacity   
   to make logically sensible factually supported technical statements.   
      
   If we can all keep the focus on the technology, actions & Apple product   
   instead of employing absurd excuses expressly to protect and preserve   
   Apple's honor at all costs, this newsgroup will be far better for it.   
      
   The choice is yours.   
      
   Act like an adult, and I'll treat you like an adult.   
   Deal?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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