XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   badgolferman wrote:   
   > Marian  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Regardless of delta size, the device still reconstructs a complete new   
   >> sealed system image. Other operating systems do not work this way. They   
   >> patch individual components directly. iOS rebuilds the entire OS image.   
   >>   
   >   
   > So why is this bad? Updating iOS on my iPhone with full versions or   
   > incremental updates takes far less time than updating Windows. I often must   
   > wait around 10-15 minutes if not more for Windows to go through multiple   
   > boot cycles, but not with iOS.   
      
      
   Hi badgolferman,   
      
   I only bring it up as its own topic because I'm desperately trying to get   
   folks like Tyrone to act like adults to flesh out technical differences.   
      
   Tyrone essentially claims I'm a liar on topics that are too complicated for   
   him to understand, so, to help him understand, I wrote 5 threads today:   
      
    Subject: Almost nobody on this ng understands how iOS releases   
    Message-ID: <10iaacg$15pq$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
    Subject: Clarifying the Nature of Apple's French Criminal Settlement   
    Message-ID: <10iacar$2c07$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
    Subject: iPhone "Efficiency": Marketing vs Measured Data   
    Message-ID: <10iagk2$1csu$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
    Subject: Assessing the Privacy Impact of Apple's WiFi Positioning System   
    Message-ID: <10iaho7$2osq$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
    Subject: Security Is Far More Comprehensive Than Simple Malware Statistics   
    Message-ID: <10iajkh$l9v$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
   In all cases, people like Tyrone apparently can barely scratch the surface   
   on the technicalities involved, e.g., he claims the only metric for   
   security is malware, and he claims that standard tests are worse than Apple   
   marketing and he claims a criminal settlement isn't criminal, and he claims   
   that all security researchers are wrong on both privacy & security, etc.   
      
   His belief system is so absurd, that my sensible and well documented facts   
   rebutting his belief system "sounds absurd" to him because Apple never told   
   him that iOS was built as a monolithic system from the start. And still is.   
      
   That one is pretty funny after all.   
   For some strange reason, from nospam to Tyrone, they hate the facts.   
      
   They don't understand them, of course.   
   But they hate the word "monolithic" for some strange reason.   
      
   Since they apparently hate the word "monolithic", they say I'm lying.   
   And yet, clearly I understand how iOS is built. Clearly they do not.   
      
   In fact, I've always understood how iOS is built.   
   And they have never understood it.   
      
   Which is obvious when they claim iOS is not monolithic.   
   They claim that only because they hate they word.   
      
   They have no other reason.   
   That's what's so funny.   
      
   So, it's not so much which is better (although it's clear which is better).   
   This thread is simply to discuss, like adults, how iOS is released.   
      
   It's the facts first.   
   Once they have the fact, they can assess why it matters.   
      
   Anyway, let's see if they respond to the facts like adults or not. :)   
      
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