XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Marian  wrote:   
   > Marian wrote:   
   >> Apple's system is so different from everyone else's system that it was   
   >> trivial for me, a nobody, to do it - using open source code out there.   
   >   
   > One perfectly reasonable disagreement is that Chris repeatedly disputed   
   > my personal ad hoc characterization that it is "trivial" to get the location   
   > of up to 400 APs near any given AP in Apple's highly insecure but very public   
   > WPS database.   
   >   
   > That's fine as adults can disagree on effort given differing skill sets.   
   > a. Chris repeatedly claimed it was not trivial   
   > b. I easily proved that it was excessively trivial   
   >   
   > Too trivial, in fact.   
   > Anyone can do it.   
      
   Let's remind ourselves of what your original claim was:   
      
   >> Let's just say California wanted to find all the people who moved from   
   >> California to Florida who retired to ask them to pay their 401K taxes.   
   >>   
   >> It would be trivial, using Apple's WPS system, to find everyone in any   
   >> given county in Florida who recently moved there from California.   
      
   It's been two weeks since I challenged you to compete this "trivial" task.   
      
   TBF you have done more than I thought you would. However, it is nowhere   
   near being able to trace any californian who may have moved to florida for   
   the purposes of chasing them for taxes solely by their router.   
      
   It's quite clear that:   
   a) it is not trivial   
   b) you've proved nothing new   
      
   As a side note, it is quite hypocritical of Donald to claim that MAC   
   addresses are private information which identifies people directly and then   
   to post hundreds of real ones all over usenet. Why would he choose to   
   violate people's privacy like that?   
      
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