XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-23 11:29, Marian wrote:   
   > Tyrone wrote:   
   >> On Dec 22, 2025 at 11:05:50 PM EST, "Marian"   
   >>    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> You know I have higher degrees in engineering and a bachelors in the   
   >>> sciences, so you know I'm extremely well tuned toward always making   
   >>> proven   
   >>> defensible statements which stand up to the most intense scrutiny of   
   >>> accuracy & level of detail.   
   >>   
   >> LOL.   Priceless.   
   >>   
   >> Seriously.  This goes into the Bullshit Claim Hall Of Fame. So your   
   >> claim that   
   >> it was impossible to run SMB Servers on iOS because Android can't was   
   >> "scientific"?????   
   >   
   > Tyrone, I'm going to stay focused on the technical points rather than the   
   > personal commentary.   
   >   
   > When Alan Baker or Snit makes a claim, it's not believable, simply because   
   > they have a long sordid history of making claims that turn out to be false.   
   >   
   > An example is this from Snit who repeatedly claimed a decibel is a Mbps:   
   >    
   > Jolly Roger & nospam and others made the exact same claim in these threads:   
   >    
   >  PZuec56EWB0>   
   >   
   > Alan Baker still insists that it's impossible to change Usenet headers.   
   >    
      
   Do I?   
      
   Where do you get, "still insists" from?   
      
   You, OTOH, "still insist" that "catenary" bears some importance for   
   taking corners on a road racing course.   
      
   >   
   > It's clear that no adult conversation is possible with such people.   
   >   
   > Of those, the only one I don't plonk is JR, and the reason is only because   
   > I learn a lot from him as he's the quintessential Apple owner mentality.   
   >   
   > The rest I don't respond to, and you should THANK me for not responding to   
   > them, just as I don't respond to Joerg Lorenz as he can never add value.   
   >   
   > I do respond to YOU though, Tyrone.   
   > Expressly because you CAN add value.   
   >   
   > Likewise with Alan Browne and Chris, Tyrone.   
   > Again, only because they CAN add value.   
   >   
   >> Your "scientific proof" was a screenshot of your web server (or whatever)   
   >> running on an Android phone?  That was beyond pathetic as "proof" of   
   >> what iOS   
   >> can/can't do.   
   >   
   > The screenshots were simply the record of the tests I ran. They weren't the   
   > argument by themselves. I very often post screenshots in fact.   
   >   
   > I test almost every claim made on this Apple newsgroup, in fact.   
   > And I've posted, oh, I don't know, THOUSANDS of screenshots of those tests.   
   >   
   > For you to lambaste me for simply proving I ran the tests is revealing.   
   >   
   > The fact is, on Windows 10, I tested iOS privileged port access   
   > extensively, including checking for port mapping, and the results were   
   > consistent. I likely know what was happening better than all but you at   
   > this point, because I made sure which port it was using. They just assumed.   
      
   But insisted even after being show screenshots and even videos that it   
   couldn't be possible...   
      
   >   
   > However, I'm trained in sciences and engineering, so if you think a   
   > specific part of the testing was incorrect, I'm open to discussing that.   
   >   
   > But I'm not going to respond to personal attacks. I'm sticking to   
   > evidence and repeatable testing.   
   >   
   > And yes, I post screenshots proving that I ran those tests, Tyrone.   
   > It's not a crime. It's a virtue that I back up every single claim I make.   
      
   How's that working for "catenary curves" in motorsports?   
      
   :-)   
      
   >   
   >>> To be clear, I wasn't trying to 'win' anything as I was presenting   
   >>> facts.   
   >>> If anyone disagrees with any specific points, I'm happy to discuss them.   
   >>   
   >> No, you are not happy to discuss. You just call people stupid when   
   >> they prove   
   >> you are wrong.  That is the very definition of "needing to win".   
   >   
   > I'm not interested in trading insults, so I'll keep this to the facts.   
   >   
   > When an argument is not evidence based, and yet it's strongly held (e.g.,   
   > Snit's argument that a Mbps is the same as a Decibel), I have to make an   
   > assessment of the knowledge level of the person making that strong claim.   
   >   
   > When it's not enough to explain to Snit (and to Jolly Roger) that just   
   > seeing a moving graph doesn't mean that a Decibel is the same as a Mbps,   
   > then I have to assess the intelligence level of the person I'm trying to   
   > teach.   
   > Specifically, when Alan Baker makes the outright claim over and over again   
   > that it's impossible to change Usenet headers, I have to, at some point,   
   > give up trying to teach him (which is why I plonk him), as I assess his   
   > intelligence level at the point that he can't learn even if I changed the   
   > headers to his name (which I did and he STILL didn't believe it).   
      
   Over and over? Quote me.   
      
   >   
   > Likewise, when Snit (aka Brock McNuggets) repeatedly claims the only metric   
   > that matters for security is malware statistics, you have to assess whether   
   > they own the basic intelligence to understand something as complex as   
   > security.   
   >   
   > Since I assess that Joerg Lorenz, for example, can't comprehend basically   
   > anything complex, I assess him as too stupid for me to bother to converse   
   > with.   
   >   
   > You should THANK me for refusing to try to teach these people whom I've   
   > killfiled, Tyrone, instead of attacking me for ignoring people who can't   
   > comprehend the complexities of iOS (or for that matter, anything).   
   >   
   >>> But I'll back off on this tack since if anyone thinks the goal is 'just   
   >>> trying to be right', then I've failed at educating people on this ng how   
   >>> Apple products actually work in the real world (outside of absurd   
   >>> marketing   
   >>> claims).   
   >>   
   >> One can't "educate" people on a topic when one does not know anything   
   >> about   
   >> the topic. Tossing out your opinions is not "educating". You know nothing   
   >> about iOS, security or batteries. Yet you endlessly pontificate about   
   >> these   
   >> and many other topics.   
   >   
   > I'll continue to stay civil and evidence-based, even though the tone from   
   > you seems to be attacking me viciously simply for thanking you for your   
   > efforts in helping me test exactly which port iOS used for its SMB access.   
   >   
   > However, when Alan Baker screams out repeatedly that it's impossible to   
   > change Usenet headers, at some point, I simply must plonk people like that.   
      
   How many times much you say the same thing...   
      
   ...and whom is it really intended to convince?   
      
   >   
   > Hence, at this point, I "toss out" all the opinions from Alan Baker.   
   > And from Snit (aka Brock McNuggets). And from Joerg Lorenz.   
   >   
      
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