XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Your Name wrote:   
   > True, but there are plenty of tutors, teachers, and even university   
   > lecturers who believe they can and get apid for it.  :-(   
   >   
   > In high school I had a mathematics teacher who wrote "X + X = 3X" on   
   > the blackboard as part of a bigger equation, and then spent the rest of   
   > the one hour lesson trying to figure out where he went wrong.  :-\   
   > That was near the start of the year, and I completely ignoref the fool   
   > for the rest of the year and went thought the text book by myself.   
   >   
   > In university, there was a computer science lecturer who claimed that   
   > "no personal computer can do multitasking" ... until several people   
   > pointed out to him that the Commodore Amiga had been doing it for at   
   > least a year by that time.   
      
      
   Hi Your Name,   
      
   Merry Christmas!   
      
   I'm here to help others understand the deeper mechanics of iOS that   
   most people never run into (and that Apple marketing never explains).   
      
   Your anecdotes about teachers in the 1960s when you went to high school (at   
   least I went to high school at that time) are rather interesting, but they   
   don't really speak to the current technical points under discussion.   
      
   None of the items I listed were opinions or theories as all were real-world   
   observations of how iOS behaves in practice on actual devices.   
      
   If any specific point in that list is factually incorrect, I'm happy to   
   examine it. But stories about unrelated classroom experiences don't really   
   address whether iOS requires activation, whether app installation requires   
   an Apple ID, or how default apps behave without cloud login.   
      
   If you have different observations from real devices, that would be useful   
   to compare.   
      
   To help you focus on the topic for discussion, here's a quick re-summary:   
   1. iOS devices must contact Apple's activation servers before use.   
   2. Devices can run without an Apple ID, but with prompts & limits.   
   3. App installation and app updates require an Apple ID; OS updates do not.   
   4. Several built-in apps require Apple ID login to function fully.   
   5. Devices left unsigned-in long-term eventually became activation-locked.   
   6. Apple now requires two-factor verification for all Apple IDs.   
   7. Initial setup cannot be completed offline; activation is required.   
      
   If your claim is one of those items is wrong, or just an opinion, let's   
   discuss it like adults do, instead of implying all teaching is wrong.   
   --   
   I'm here to help others understand the deeper mechanics of iOS that   
   most people never run into (and that Apple marketing never explains).   
      
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