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   Alan to Joel W. Crump   
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   26 Dec 25 15:36:41   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-24 18:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 12/24/25 8:54 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>> Samsung's phones and Linux like I use, objectively, are for   
   >>>>>>>>> cool people, who choose the best.  Windows 11 is OK, for those   
   >>>>>>>>> who are less technically inclined.  macOS, though, is   
   >>>>>>>>> objectively inferior.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And yet you've never been able to express how.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Apple is low-key.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In what way?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Don't feel bad,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't feel bad.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why would i?   
   >>>   
   >>> Because you paid Apple's prices?   
   >>   
   >> To get a product that works very well.   
   >   
   >   
   > Oh really.  Is that why AppleCare is such a big deal?   
      
   First show that:   
      
   Anyone thinks it's a big deal.   
      
   Other companies don't offer extended warranties on their products.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>>> though, it worked out well for MS Office and Adobe Photoshop, and   
   >>>>> so forth, they thrive on the Mac.  Winblows has its nice points but   
   >>>>> isn't really better *in every respect*, which is why macOS and   
   >>>>> Linux maintain such loyal followings.  I would never buy another   
   >>>>> Mac, but I understand the kinds of uses that would lead one to do   
   >>>>> it. Their presence in the market does matter, because it serves a   
   >>>>> substantial need among the public of consumers.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Failure to answer the question noted.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Mac interface is under-developed.   
   >>   
   >> In what specific ways?   
   >   
   >   
   > It simply copies other OSes, being late to the game, never being up to   
   > date.   
      
   Name such a copy.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>> Even being a Unix flavor, it fails to act as one out of the box   
   >>> compared to a Linux distro,   
   >>   
   >> In what way?   
   >   
   >   
   > Is that not obvious to you?  Darwin has a great potential, but it's not   
   > a complete subsystem.  At the end of the day, Microsoft's WSL 2 is   
   > better, because it implements GUI apps in a seamless-enough way.   
      
   In what way is Darwin incomplete?   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>> so it has to be judged by macOS apps specifically, and there are   
   >>> stellar ones as I mentioned and acknowledged, but on the whole it's   
   >>> quirky software by comparison to what is common with Windows and   
   >>> Linux systems.   
   >>   
   >> Give an example of this supposedly "quirky" software and how it is   
   >> claimed to be "quirky".   
   >   
   >   
   > I didn't prefer Mac software, on the whole.   
      
   Which doesn't make it quirky.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>> This is why, objectively, I am right,   
   >>   
   >> Given that you never offer anything but your personal opinions, the   
   >> word "objectively"...   
   >>   
   >> ...is objectively being used incorrectly.   
   >   
   >   
   > If I like something, it must be really good, because I have objective   
   > tastes and judgments on things.   
      
   You're a loony.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>> and you are the Apple fanboy to see as missing the big picture of why   
   >>> you prefer something that is in fact inferior.   
   >   
   >> In ways that you can never seem to identify with any specificity.   
   >   
   >   
   > It breaks down like this.  Windows wins on overall app availability to   
   > quality, but Mac gets something of an honorable mention for specific   
   > apps for it such as Office and Photoshop, and Linux comes in strong as   
   > an alternative to everything else.  A cooler person will prefer Linux,   
   > but people who are relatively cool will also prefer Windows for its ease   
   > of use, and there are selected cool users of Macs, who defy the   
   > stereotypes and pricing scheme inherent to the platform, but they are   
   > objectively preferring something inferior that for some reason they like   
   > and works for them.   
   I don't buy technology to be cool   
      
   I buy technology to achieve the ends of USING it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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