XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   On 2025-12-30 01:59:37 +0000, Tyrone said:   
   > On Dec 29, 2025 at 8:09:29 PM EST, "Alan"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> They make it attractive by offering a suite of useful services.   
   >>   
   >> I LIKE that my passwords are seamlessly and securely synched across my   
   devices.   
   >>   
   >> Likewise for my:   
   >>   
   >> Notes   
   >> Messages   
   >> Contacts   
   >> Calendars   
   >> Reminders   
   >> Safari bookmarks   
   >> News   
   >> Stocks   
   >> Wallet   
   >> FaceTime   
   >> Books   
   >> Maps   
   >>   
   >> Etc.!   
   >   
   > Exactly.   The whole point of Apple.   
      
   Well, not the "whole point" ... personally I only have one device (a   
   desktop Mac) and do not use any of the iCloud stuff. We also have an   
   iPad, but that is used by someone else so is separate (although does   
   use my Apple ID for ease of my being the "tech support" for system   
   updates).  :-)   
      
      
      
      
   >>> The frequency of sign-ins to Apple's Cupertino matrix is high simply   
   >>> because almost every subsystem on iOS expects an Apple ID:   
   >>> App Store   
   >>   
   >> Which you almost certainly need.   
      
   Only if you want to install other apps or any updates, which isn't a   
   necessity for many people.   
      
      
      
   >>> iCloud   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> iMessage   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> FaceTime   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Keychain / Passkeys   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Find My   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Device backups   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> App updates   
   >>   
   >> Which is the same as "App Store"   
   >>   
   >>> Subscriptions   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Apple Pay   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Screen Time   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Family Sharing   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Photos sync   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Notes sync   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Safari sync   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Password autofill   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >>   
   >>> Two-factor prompts   
   >>   
   >> Which you can decline to use.   
   >   
   > And once you stop using all of these built-in Apple services, you would have   
   > an Android phone.   
      
   I've never used any of those services, other than OS updates. I simply   
   have zero need for them. My computer and the other person's iPad   
   function perfectly well.   
      
      
   > No thanks.   
      
   The real reason most people use Apple devices is because they are   
   simply much easier to actually use. Almost everybody who uses an Apple   
   device then does not want to go back to the awful mess of Andud or   
   Windoze.   
      
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