XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: nuh-uh@nope.com
On 2025-12-29 21:14, Your Name wrote:
> On 2025-12-30 01:59:37 +0000, Tyrone said:
>> On Dec 29, 2025 at 8:09:29 PM EST, "Alan" wrote:
>>
>>> They make it attractive by offering a suite of useful services.
>>>
>>> I LIKE that my passwords are seamlessly and securely synched across
>>> my devices.
>>>
>>> Likewise for my:
>>>
>>> Notes
>>> Messages
>>> Contacts
>>> Calendars
>>> Reminders
>>> Safari bookmarks
>>> News
>>> Stocks
>>> Wallet
>>> FaceTime
>>> Books
>>> Maps
>>>
>>> Etc.!
>>
>> Exactly. The whole point of Apple.
>
> Well, not the "whole point" ... personally I only have one device (a
> desktop Mac) and do not use any of the iCloud stuff. We also have an
> iPad, but that is used by someone else so is separate (although does use
> my Apple ID for ease of my being the "tech support" for system
> updates). :-)
If I can suggest, unless that iPad is used by a child you don't want to
tie to an Apple Account yet, set up a separate account, and create a
second user on the desktop machine, just for authentication.
>
>
>
>
>>>> The frequency of sign-ins to Apple's Cupertino matrix is high simply
>>>> because almost every subsystem on iOS expects an Apple ID:
>>>> App Store
>>>
>>> Which you almost certainly need.
>
> Only if you want to install other apps or any updates, which isn't a
> necessity for many people.
I would disagree with that.
I doubt there are many people at all who never install a single app on
their iOS devices.
But I can tell you that I've set up an iPad with a pretty much blank
Apple Account and I've signed in only for the App Store...
...and contrary to Arlen's drunken ravings, I haven't been asked to
"complete" anything in the nearly 24 hours since I did it.
>
>
>
>>>> iCloud
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> iMessage
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> FaceTime
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Keychain / Passkeys
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Find My
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Device backups
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> App updates
>>>
>>> Which is the same as "App Store"
>>>
>>>> Subscriptions
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Apple Pay
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Screen Time
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Family Sharing
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Photos sync
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Notes sync
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Safari sync
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Password autofill
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>>
>>>> Two-factor prompts
>>>
>>> Which you can decline to use.
>>
>> And once you stop using all of these built-in Apple services, you
>> would have
>> an Android phone.
>
> I've never used any of those services, other than OS updates. I simply
> have zero need for them. My computer and the other person's iPad
> function perfectly well.
And that's great.
I would suggest you're in a (very) small minority that never uses any of
those.
>
>
>> No thanks.
>
> The real reason most people use Apple devices is because they are simply
> much easier to actually use. Almost everybody who uses an Apple device
> then does not want to go back to the awful mess of Andud or Windoze.
Agreed.
I no longer sell Apple gear, but when I did, I had many customers I
convinced to give Macs a try...
...and only two (just 2!) ever wanted to go back.
And these days, while there are still clients of mine who use Apple
devices, they're mostly clients in name only...
...because they almost never need any support!
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