XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On 2025-12-30 16:32, Alan wrote:   
    >   
   >>>> However, even the most trivial of applications either comes with a   
   >>>> price or some sort of adware. That's not a problem on the Linux   
   >>>> side. Updates are also much faster on Linux and installing an   
   >>>> application takes mere seconds.   
   >>> I see...   
   >>>   
   >>> So you expect people to develop software for free?   
   >>   
   >> No, but software to do things such as clean the storage should not   
   >> cost as much as it does if it is a remedy to a flaw in the operating   
   >> system.   
   >   
   > So you've reduced a general argument to one specific example?   
      
   I did no such thing, I was providing an example. In the case of   
   open-source, you are provided with free applications to do pretty much   
   everything you would ever want to do. In most cases, you have the choice   
   to donate to the developer(s) to support their work. You also have the   
   choice of paid software whose quality is no worse than what you would   
   find on the proprietary operating systems. However, in the case of   
   MacOS, you often don't have free utilities available for tasks. Should   
   you choose to rely on the App Store for your downloads as a result of a   
   concern for your security, practically everything requires payment.   
   Unlike Linux which makes both free and paid software available from one   
   location, MacOS provides you easy access to the paid stuff and you often   
   have to dig on the web for free applications, often with nothing   
   available without a charge. Maintenance applications for MacOS that   
   don't cost a thing are hard to find, putting you in a situation where   
   your operating system inevitably bloats in one way or another with time.   
   Even Microsoft provides maintenance utilities at no charge with   
   Microsoft PC Manager.   
      
   This is where you step in and lie that MacOS is so advanced that it   
   doesn't bloat or doesn't require such utilities to protect your Apple gods.   
     >>> Also, I call bullshit on "much faster" updates and installations.   
   >>   
   >> Really? How long does it take to install MacOS? Pop_OS! on this   
   >> computer took me about ten minutes, including the prompts. As for a   
   >> major upgrade, I can spare the twenty minutes or so. It's probably not   
   >> much longer than that. MacOS takes an hour or so for either.   
   >   
   > We weren't discussing OS installations:   
   >   
   > "installing an application takes mere seconds."   
      
   Nobody ever knows what you're discussing because you move goal posts   
   routinely to protect the company you pray to. Look above: "I call bull*   
   on "much faster" updates and _installations_." You knew what I was   
   saying but you changed the topic anyway because Apple looked bad.   
      
   >>> Data is data, it doesn't magically come down the pipe faster to a   
   >>> Linux system.   
   >>   
   >> And yet they do.   
   > Give an example.   
   >   
   > Show me a Linux app the equivalent of a macOS app that magically   
   > installs in "seconds".   
      
   In Pop_OS!:   
      
   1) Open Cosmic Store   
   2) Search for WPS Office   
   3) Click "Install"   
   4) Open mere seconds later.   
      
   And now you'll claim that WPS Office is not equivalent to something on   
   MacOS even though it is an office suite, one of the most important   
   things a user can install, and a better one than what Apple bundles with   
   its products and even better than the Apple version of Microsoft's own   
   suite.   
      
   --   
   CrudeSausage   
   John 14:6   
   Pop_OS! is great.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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