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   > From: Maria Sophia    
   > Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   > Subject: Why is Apple's iOS implementation of TOR inherently unsecure?   
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   > Q: Why is Apple's iOS implementation of TOR inherently unsecure?   
   > A: ?   
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   > Q: Why is Apple's iOS TOR implementation different from all other systems?   
   > A: ?   
   >   
   > HINT: Even macOS has a secure Tor implementation. Just not iOS. Why?   
      
   Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   > So does Apple provide a quality platform for TOR usage, with good   
   > guarantees of users¢ privacy?   
   >   
   > No.   
      
   Hi Lawrence,   
      
   Happy New Year!   
      
   I agree with Lawrence D'Oliveiro that the topic here is Tor and whether iOS   
   provides the same privacy guarantees that Tor users expect on other   
   platforms.   
      
   Lawrence answered that directly:   
     iOS does not provide a platform suitable for running Tor in a way   
     that preserves the privacy properties Tor is designed for.   
      
   That's not an opinion.   
   That's not subject to debate.   
   It's a fact.   
      
   Tyrone bringing up unrelated claims about iOS "security" does not address   
   the question. In fact, Tyrone is clearly attempting to shift the discussion   
   away from Tor and toward a different topic entirely.   
      
   That is classic whataboutism.   
      
   Tyrone trying to shift the subject of this thead does not change the fact   
   that iOS cannot run a Tor relay, cannot run a Tor exit node, cannot run a   
   persistent Tor daemon, and cannot provide the same privacy model that Tor   
   offers on Linux, Android, Windows, or macOS.   
      
   It just can't.   
   Worse, iOS is the only operating system that can't run the Tor browser.   
      
   As even macOS can do it.   
      
   However, if someone wants to discuss general iOS security, that is a   
   separate thread. This thread is about Tor, and the technical limitations of   
   iOS that prevent Tor from functioning as designed.   
    =====================================================================   
   There is no professional security researcher on the planet who says iOS is   
   more secure than Android, but that topic is discussed in detail already:   
    =====================================================================   
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
    Subject: What are the merits of the claim that iOS is "way more secure"?   
    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:53 -0700   
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    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
    Subject: What did Google's project zero really say about Apple never testing   
   much of their iOS code?   
    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 11:34:16 -0700   
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    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
    Subject: What does the CISA KEV database say about Android/iOS known critical   
   exploits?   
    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 11:20:58 -0700   
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    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
    Subject: What does it really mean when an entity chooses iOS or Android as   
   their main platform?   
    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 11:10:02 -0700   
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    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
    Subject: Assessing the Privacy Impact of Apple¢s WiFi Positioning System   
    Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 21:34:15 -0700   
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