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   <4KacnTS8QJmYv8D0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@supernews.com>,   
   none@none.none says...   
   >   
   > On Jan 6, 2026 at 1:42:17 AM EST, "Alan"  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On 2025-12-29 17:19, Alan wrote:   
   > >> On 2025-12-25 13:39, Marian wrote:   
   > >>> Marian wrote:   
   > >>>> It seems we need a separate thread on teaching others and learning from   
   > >>>> others more about the very important topic of how iOS is actually   
   > >>>> designed.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> To help users on this Apple newsgroup LEARN how iOS actually works,   
   > >>> and to   
   > >>> help further the conversation to discuss how iOS actually works, here are   
   > >>> the unavoidable facts based on long-term testing of iOS devices while   
   > >>> avoiding manual Apple ID logins & avoiding Apple's cloud ecosystem as   
   > >>> much   
   > >>> as possible so that the true nature of the iOS ecosystem was being   
   > >>> tested.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> 1. *Device activation and Apple servers with respect to the AppleID*   
   > >>>    An iOS device cannot be brought into a usable state without contacting   
   > >>>    Apple's activation servers. This activation step is mandatory and is   
   > >>>    separate from creating or signing into an Apple ID.   
   > >>>    Even if you skip the Apple ID portion, the device must still check   
   > >>>    in with Apple before setup can complete.   
   > >>   
   > >> So that it can be ascertained whether or not the device has been stolen.   
   > >>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> 2. *Operating an iOS device without signing into an Apple ID*   
   > >>>    It is possible to skip signing into an Apple ID during setup, but the   
   > >>>    device operates in a limited state. Many system components repeatedly   
   > >>>    prompt for Apple ID credentials because the OS assumes that an   
   > >>> Apple ID   
   > >>>    will eventually be provided.   
   > >>   
   > >> This is false.   
   > >>   
   > >> I have a freshly set up iPad immediately to the left of me, and I have   
   > >> signed out of the Apple Account (formerly "AppleID"; get the details   
   > >> right). I'll see how many prompts I get in the next day and you'll see.   
   > > ...and I finally received a prompt!   
   > >   
   > > There was red badge on the Settings app, and when I opened it, there was   
   > > a suggestion (with no dire warnings at all, mind you!) that I start   
   > > using iCloud, and a few words about the advantages it offers.   
   > >   
   > > I tapped "Not now" and it's gone!   
   > >   
   > > :-)   
   >   
   > Wait.  So you are saying that Arlen is AGAIN lying?   
   >   
   > I am stunned. My head is spinning.  I can't process this. Arlen is SUCH a   
   > fountain of info!   
      
   Yea, Arlen sure is a fountain of info. The problem is the   
   water supply for the fountain comes directly from the   
   local sewer system.   
      
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