XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-06 10:29, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Tom Elam wrote:   
   >>> The question is WHY does Apple require your account passwd even though   
   >>> you're logged in and even though you never logged out (for years on end)?   
   >>   
   >> Never had iOS on several phones and iPads ask for my Apple password   
   >> unless something unusual I did triggers it. Or maybe you don't have Face   
   >> ID and fingerprint enabled?   
   >   
   > Hi Tom Elam,   
   >   
   > Happy New Year.   
   >   
   > Thanks for helping us better understand Apple's iOS operating system.   
   >   
   > I don't have FaceID or Fingerprint but I don't think that's related.   
   > I also don't have a PIN, which I don't think is related.   
   >   
   > I do have 2FV on my latest iOS device because I create a new bogus Apple ID   
   > for every device, but Apple requires 2FV nowadays, like it or not.   
   >   
   > Having answered your question, it turns out 2FV, FaceID, TouchID, PINs, &   
   > the Apple ID do not control or influence the expiration of Apple service   
   > tokens. Token expiration is determined by each individual Apple service.   
   >   
   > Each Apple service controls its own token lifecycle, for example...   
   >   a. iCloud Drive has its own expiration rules   
   >   b. iMessage has its own expiration rules   
   >   c. App Store has its own expiration rules   
   >   d. Find My has its own expiration rules   
   >   e. Keychain escrow has its own expiration rules   
   >   etc.   
   >   
   > With that answer behind us, I think you must have seen a password prompt at   
   > some point because it is normal behavior on iOS to repeatedly ask for the   
   > password since iOS does not rely on a single login.   
   >   
   > Apparently iOS uses many separate authentication tokens, each tied to a   
   > different Apple service such as this short list of some of them below:   
   >   1. Apple ID identity tokens   
   >   2. Apple iCloud tokens   
   >   3. Apple App Store tokens   
   >   4. Apple iMessage tokens   
   >   5. Apple FaceTime tokens   
   >   6. Apple Find My tokens   
   >   7. Apple Game Center tokens   
   >   8. Apple Activation tokens   
   >   9. Apple Keychain escrow tokens   
   > 10. Apple background sync tokens   
   >   
   > These service tokens expire on different schedules but, luckily for us,   
   > many of them are silently refreshed in the background without us knowing.   
   >   
   > However, when a token that cannot be silently refreshed expires, iOS asks   
   > for the Apple ID password. This happens even if the user never logged out.   
      
   But your example is nearly 4 years old.   
      
   Produce something current, please.   
      
   You claim it happens "all day, every day", so...   
      
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