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   Maria Sophia to All   
   Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd eve   
   10 Jan 26 15:11:32   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   candycanearter07 wrote:   
   > i get these kinds of notifs multiple times a day   
      
   Hi candycanearter07,   
      
   Thanks for letting us know your personal experience with iOS as to the   
   frequency of these password requests as the count is always more than zero   
   (even as some on this newsgroup have claimed they've never seen them, which   
   isn't possible based on my understanding of Apple's own documentation).   
      
   The reason for asking the question is if we don't know the answer to this   
   basic question, we have no idea how iOS works, given only iOS does this.   
      
   Eventually, if we ignore these prompts, Apple 'bricks' the device.   
   Ask me how I know this.    
      
   No other operating system vendor 'bricks' the device (Activation Lock) if   
   you simply refuse to enter the password when you've never logged out.   
      
   All major consumer operating systems contact their vendor servers in the   
   background, but none behave exactly like iOS. The key difference is that   
   iOS ties background server contact to mandatory identity tokens that can   
   expire. If the user refuses to reauthenticate, the device can eventually   
   activation lock. No other common OS does this.   
      
   1. Android   
      Android devices contact Google for push notifications, time sync,   
      certificate updates, and Play Store checks. The frequency is similar   
      to iOS for push notifications. However, Android does not activation   
      lock itself if you refuse to enter your Google password. You can   
      ignore Google prompts forever and the device will not brick itself.   
      
   2. Windows   
      Windows contacts Microsoft for updates, time sync, certificate checks,   
      and telemetry. The frequency ranges from minutes to days depending on   
      the subsystem. Windows does not lock the device if you refuse to sign   
      into a Microsoft account. Local accounts continue to work normally.   
      
   3. macOS   
      macOS contacts Apple servers for updates, push notifications, and   
      iCloud services, but far less aggressively than iOS. macOS does not   
      activation lock itself if you refuse to enter your Apple ID password.   
      Activation Lock exists on Macs, but it is tied to Find My and   
      firmware state, not token expiration.   
      
   4. ChromeOS   
      ChromeOS contacts Google servers frequently for sync, policy, and   
      updates. ChromeOS does not activation lock itself if you refuse to   
      sign in. You can use guest mode indefinitely.   
      
   5. Linux   
      Linux does not contact any vendor servers unless the user installs   
      software that does so. There is no activation lock, no forced account,   
      and no token expiration tied to device usability.   
      
   Summary   
   iOS is the only common consumer OS where background server contact is   
   linked to identity tokens that can expire and eventually lock the device   
   if the user refuses to reauthenticate. Other OSes phone home, but none   
   tie device usability to remote token validation in this way.   
   --   
   If we can't ask questions on this newsgroup about how iOS really works,   
   then what good is this newsgroup other than a Usenet marketing portal?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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