XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-10 19:02, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Tyrone wrote:   
   >> On Jan 10, 2026 at 7:27:24 PM EST, "Chris"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Maria Sophia  wrote:   
   >>>> Tyrone wrote:   
   >>>>> On Jan 10, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM EST, "Alan"  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> You haven't quoted any part of any Apple document to support your   
   nonsense.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Par for the course.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 1. When you download an app and enter your Apple ID password, iOS   
   >>>>     refreshes multiple authentication tokens.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 2. The App Store uses its own set of tokens:   
   >>>>     a. Purchase validation token   
   >>>>     b. App Store session token   
   >>>>     c. StoreKit transaction token   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Apple documents that App Store sign in is separate from iCloud:   
   >>>>     https://support.apple.com/HT201389   
   >>>   
   >>> Just like all your other links, this isn't even close to supporting your   
   >>> claim. And as always no mention ofv tokens nor their unique expiry times.   
   >>   
   >> The link he posted is:   
   >>   
   >> Change your Apple Account country or region   
   >>   
   >> NOTHING about "tokens".   
   >>   
   >   
   > Hi Chris & Tyrone,   
   >   
   > Thank you for attacking the links, but not the claims because I described   
   > how iOS works, and you've never provided a single counter link, which is a   
   > clear indication that you have no counter claim. You just want nicer links.   
   >   
   > Since both of you appear to be curious about learning more of what was   
   > claimed, here are more of the facts with Apple documentation links that   
   > describe the tokens involved in App Store and Apple ID authentication.   
   >   
   > As always, if you have any point you feel is incorrect, please don't   
   > hesitate to provide the links that back up any counterclaim you make.   
   >   
   > 1. Apple documents that App Store sign in is separate from iCloud   
   >     sign in. This is the structural point being made.   
   >        
      
   That doesn't reference the "App Store" at all and only references   
   "iCloud" once:   
      
   'After you update your Apple Account billing address and payment method,   
   you can upgrade your iCloud+ plan using the pricing in your new country   
   or region.'   
      
   >   
   > 2. Apple documents StoreKit transaction tokens.   
   >     These are used for purchase validation.   
   >        
      
   "Token" doesn't appear in that page.   
      
   Not once.   
      
   >   
   > 3. Apple documents the signed transaction tokens used by the App   
   >     Store Server API. These are part of the App Store authentication   
   >     and purchase validation flow.   
   >        
      
   More assertions not supported by what is actually written there.   
      
   >   
   > 4. Apple documents the renewal info token used for subscription state.   
   >        
      
   'The page you're looking for can't be found."   
      
   >   
   > 5. Apple documents Apple ID authentication tokens in the Sign in with   
   >     Apple framework. These include ID tokens and authorization codes.   
   >       
      
   'The page you're looking for can't be found.'   
      
   >   
   > These links show that Apple uses multiple authentication tokens in   
   > different parts of its system, and that App Store authentication is   
   > separate from iCloud authentication. Consumer support pages do not list   
   > token names or expiry times, but Apple developer documentation does   
   > describe the tokens and their roles.   
      
   Those links show nothing of the kind.   
      
   >   
   > As always, if you have Apple documentation that shows the described   
   > behavior is wrong, please include the link so it can be reviewed.   
   > Otherwise, I will rely on the documentation already cited.   
      
   Quote the parts that make your assertions true.   
      
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