XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > As always, if you have Apple documentation that shows the described   
   > behavior is wrong, please include the link so it can be reviewed.   
   > Otherwise, I will rely on the documentation already cited.   
      
   The question is not whether iOS works the way it works, but why?   
   Until people on this newsgroup understand what, they'll never get to why.   
      
   Chris & Tyrone argue only that their "memory" of how iOS works can only be   
   how iOS works, even as others have remembered iOS working the way it does.   
      
   The fact that Chris and Tyrone have not produced even a single link   
   supporting their erroneous claims about how iOS works, despite multiple   
   requests, notwithstanding, here is a corrected set of links previously   
   provided for reference.   
      
   1. Apple documents that App Store sign in can use a different Apple ID   
      than iCloud sign in. This is the structural point being made.   
         
      
   2. Apple documents StoreKit transaction tokens.   
      These are used for purchase validation.   
         
      
   3. Apple documents the signed transaction tokens used by the App Store   
      Server API. These are part of the App Store authentication and   
      purchase validation flow.   
      
      
      
   4. Apple documents the renewal info token used for subscription state.   
      
      
      
   5. Apple documents Apple ID authentication tokens in the Sign in with   
      Apple framework. These include ID tokens and authorization codes.   
         
      
   Note that only items 2 and 3 use the literal word "token" in the body   
   text. The other items describe authentication structures that function   
   as tokens even if Apple does not use that exact word on the page. This   
   distinction does not change the technical facts being described.   
      
   These links show that Apple uses multiple authentication tokens in   
   different parts of its system, and that App Store authentication is   
   separate from iCloud authentication. Consumer support pages do not list   
   token names or expiry times, but Apple developer documentation does   
   describe the tokens and their roles.   
      
   If anyone believes the technical description of how iOS really works is   
   wrong, they simply need to provide Apple documentation that contradicts the   
   cited material.   
      
   Neither Chris nor Tyrone has been able to refute how Apple iOS works.   
   All they can do to defend Apple to the death, no matter what, has been to   
   claim they have no "memory" of iOS working the way it actually works.   
      
   Yet, others have reported their memory of iOS working the way it works.   
   And, of course, I have tested it on 4 separate iPads over the years.   
       
      
   Including my latest two iPads (one of which is where these came from).   
    Oct 27, 2023    
    Dec 11, 2023    
    May 20, 2024    
    Aug 3, 2024    
    Dec 8, 2024    
    Dec 10, 2024    
    Dec 16, 2024    
    Dec 19, 2024    
    Apr 8, 2025    
    Apr 17, 2025    
    Sept 2, 2025    
    Oct 31, 2025    
    Jan 7, 2026    
    Jan 7/8 2026    
    Jan 10, 2026    
    Jan 11, 2026    
      
   The question is not whether iOS works the way it works, but why?   
      
   The amount of energy required to get folks on this newsgroup to   
   understand how iOS works is so immense, they'll never get to why.   
      
   But I will.   
   --   
   The amount of energy required to get folks on this newsgroup to   
   understand how iOS works is so immense, they'll never get to why.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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