XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-11 03:31, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Maria Sophia wrote:   
   >> As always, if you have Apple documentation that shows the described   
   >> behavior is wrong, please include the link so it can be reviewed.   
   >> Otherwise, I will rely on the documentation already cited.   
   >   
   > The question is not whether iOS works the way it works, but why?   
   > Until people on this newsgroup understand what, they'll never get to why.   
   >   
   > Chris & Tyrone argue only that their "memory" of how iOS works can only be   
   > how iOS works, even as others have remembered iOS working the way it does.   
   >   
   > The fact that Chris and Tyrone have not produced even a single link   
   > supporting their erroneous claims about how iOS works, despite multiple   
   > requests, notwithstanding, here is a corrected set of links previously   
   > provided for reference.   
   >   
   > 1. Apple documents that App Store sign in can use a different Apple ID   
   >     than iCloud sign in. This is the structural point being made.   
   >        
   >   
      
   Not in that document it doesn't.   
      
   'Sign in to apps with your Apple Account using app-specific passwords'   
      
      
   > 2. Apple documents StoreKit transaction tokens.   
   >     These are used for purchase validation.   
   >        
      
   Not a single instance of the word "token".   
      
   >   
   > 3. Apple documents the signed transaction tokens used by the App Store   
   >     Server API. These are part of the App Store authentication and   
   >     purchase validation flow.   
   >   
   >    
      
      
   Which proves...what?   
      
   >   
   > 4. Apple documents the renewal info token used for subscription state.   
   >   
   >    
      
   Ummmmm...no. "Token" appears in the left sidebar where you can view   
   OTHER documents on the same site.   
      
   >   
   > 5. Apple documents Apple ID authentication tokens in the Sign in with   
   >     Apple framework. These include ID tokens and authorization codes.   
   >        
      
   Not a single mention of "token" anywhere.   
      
   >   
   > Note that only items 2 and 3 use the literal word "token" in the body   
   > text. The other items describe authentication structures that function   
      
   Neither actually does. Item three does have "token" in the sidebar...   
      
   ...one of which is in an unclickable heading and two of which take you   
   to OTHER documents.   
      
   > as tokens even if Apple does not use that exact word on the page. This   
   > distinction does not change the technical facts being described.   
   >   
   > These links show that Apple uses multiple authentication tokens in   
   > different parts of its system, and that App Store authentication is   
   > separate from iCloud authentication. Consumer support pages do not list   
   > token names or expiry times, but Apple developer documentation does   
   > describe the tokens and their roles.   
   >   
      
   No, they do not.   
      
   > If anyone believes the technical description of how iOS really works is   
   > wrong, they simply need to provide Apple documentation that contradicts the   
   > cited material.   
      
   You need to actually quote the text that you claim is there.   
      
   It's not our job to prove a negative.   
      
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