XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-11 12:40, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Maria Sophia wrote:   
   >> Q: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?   
   >> A: ?     
      
   1. Why do you provide a picture that must be at least 4 years old?   
      
   2. Prove you never logged out.   
      
   >   
   > Q: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?   
   > A:     
      
   1. Why do you only post your pictures at a site that prevents them from   
   being examined more closely? Why do you post them at a resolution that   
   prevents close examination of them?   
      
   2. Prove you never logged out of THAT iPad. Prove you didn't just enter   
   the wrong password too many times.   
      
   3. Prove you didn't STEAL that iPad.   
      
   > Once we understand that iOS relies on multiple independent tokens,   
   > each with its own expiry and its own rules for renewal, the testing   
   > procedure follows naturally.    
      
   This pictures proves nothing about "tokens", independent or otherwise.   
      
   >   
   > If we refuse to enter the Apple ID password long enough, more   
   > and more of those tokens age out. Some can refresh silently for a while,   
   > but others cannot, and when the activation token finally expires, the   
   > device cannot prove to Apple that it is still associated with a valid   
   > account.    
      
   You've yet to prove the reason you were locked out is that you simply   
   didn't enter your password.   
      
   >   
   > At that point iOS does exactly what it was designed to do. It falls back to   
   > Activation Lock because, from Apple's perspective, a device that cannot   
   > authenticate itself is indistinguishable from a lost or stolen device.   
   >      
   >   
      
   You haven't proven that at all.   
      
      
   > That is the "why" behind the behavior. We do not have to like the design,   
   > but denying the mechanism does not make it go away.   
   >   
   > I tested this behavior on multiple iPads and I have confirmed it works as   
   > described above where here is current data on just one of my test iPads.   
   >   Oct 27, 2023    
   >   Dec 11, 2023    
   >   May 20, 2024    
   >   Aug 3, 2024    
   >   Dec 8, 2024    
   >   Dec 10, 2024    
   >   Dec 16, 2024    
   >   Dec 19, 2024    
   >   Apr 8, 2025    
   >   Apr 17, 2025    
   >   Sept 2, 2025    
   >   Oct 31, 2025    
   >   Jan 7, 2026    
   >   Jan 7/8 2026    
   >   Jan 10, 2026    
   >   Jan 11, 2026    
   >   
   > If you believe iOS doesn't work as tested and as described, then please   
   > inform us how you feel iOS handles token expiry when not satisfied.   
      
   You refusing to log in isn't proof.   
      
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