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   Maria Sophia to Maria Sophia   
   Re: Why does iOS ask for your passwd eve   
   11 Jan 26 15:40:40   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Q: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?   
   > A: ?     
      
   Q: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?   
   A:     
      
   Once we understand that iOS relies on multiple independent tokens,   
   each with its own expiry and its own rules for renewal, the testing   
   procedure follows naturally.    
      
   If we refuse to enter the Apple ID password long enough, more   
   and more of those tokens age out. Some can refresh silently for a while,   
   but others cannot, and when the activation token finally expires, the   
   device cannot prove to Apple that it is still associated with a valid   
   account.    
      
   At that point iOS does exactly what it was designed to do. It falls back to   
   Activation Lock because, from Apple's perspective, a device that cannot   
   authenticate itself is indistinguishable from a lost or stolen device.   
       
      
   That is the "why" behind the behavior. We do not have to like the design,   
   but denying the mechanism does not make it go away.   
      
   I tested this behavior on multiple iPads and I have confirmed it works as   
   described above where here is current data on just one of my test iPads.   
    Oct 27, 2023    
    Dec 11, 2023    
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   If you believe iOS doesn't work as tested and as described, then please   
   inform us how you feel iOS handles token expiry when not satisfied.   
   --   
   If we don't understand how iOS works, we have no business being here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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