XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-11 03:41, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > Maria Sophia wrote:   
   >> The amount of energy required to get folks on this newsgroup to   
   >> understand how iOS works is so immense, they'll never get to why.   
   >>   
   >> But I will.   
   >   
   > Getting back to the question posed in the original post of this thread:   
   > Q: Why does iOS ask for your passwd even though you never logged out?   
   > A: ?     
   >   
   > At this point the question is no longer whether iOS works the way it   
   > works. That has been demonstrated repeatedly with Apple documentation,   
   > multiple user reports, and direct testing. The remaining question is   
   > why only iOS behaves this way when other consumer platforms do not.   
   >   
   > The answer appears to come from three design choices Apple made that   
   > Android and Windows do not make, so here's my first-pass explanation.   
   >   
   > 1. iOS is built around a single identity authority. One Apple ID   
   >     controls App Store, iCloud, Find My, Activation Lock, device   
   >     restore, purchases, subscriptions, keychain sync, and more.   
      
   False. Simply, indisputably false.   
      
   At a minimum, you can use one Apple Account (get the details right,   
   Arlen!) to access your iCloud services and a different Apple Account to   
   access the App Store.   
      
   >   
   >     Android does not use a single identity authority. Google accounts   
   >     control Play Store and some sync features, but device security,   
   >     restore, and OEM services are separate. Windows is even more   
   >     decoupled, with Microsoft accounts used for Store and sync, but   
   >     device security and activation are independent.   
   >   
   >     Because iOS centralizes identity, it uses multiple authentication   
   >     tokens with independent expiry. Android and Windows do not   
   >     centralize identity this way.   
   >   
   > 2. iOS couples identity to device security state. Activation Lock,   
   >     Find My, restore authorization, and device association all depend on   
   >     Apple ID authentication.   
   >   
   >     Android does not tie device unlock, restore, or factory reset to the   
   >     Google account in the same way. Factory Reset Protection exists, but   
   >     it does not block normal device use when tokens expire. Windows does   
   >     not restrict device functionality when Microsoft account tokens   
   >     expire.   
   >   
   >     When required tokens cannot be refreshed iOS restricts device   
   >     functionality. Android and Windows do not behave this way.   
      
   When the token for iCloud services cannot be refreshed, the   
   functionality of those services SHOULD be restricted.   
      
   >   
   > 3. iOS uses short lived tightly scoped tokens. Apple documents ID   
   >     tokens, authorization codes, App Store session tokens, purchase   
   >     validation tokens, StoreKit transaction tokens, and renewal info   
   >     tokens.   
   >   
   >     Android uses fewer tokens with longer lifetimes. Google Play uses a   
   >     long lived account token and a purchase token that does not affect   
   >     device functionality. Windows uses even fewer tokens, with long   
   >     lived Microsoft account credentials and no device level coupling.   
      
   Assertions without any evidence, let alone proof.   
      
   >   
   >     Each iOS token has its own expiry and scope. Android and Windows use   
   >     fewer tokens with longer lifetimes and less coupling.   
   >   
   > No other operating system ecosystem "bricks" (Activation Lock) your device   
   > if you simply refuse to re-authenticate when constantly asked to.   
      
   You've yet to show that that is what actually happened.   
      
   The rest of your blather snipped.   
      
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