XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: mariasophia@comprehension.com
pothead wrote:
> I have an iPhone and have had various models for years.
Hi Pothead,
Thanks for your level-headed assessment where most people have no idea how
iOS works so of course they never noticed what iOS does under the covers.
I have tested this token expiry process for years.
I know HOW it works.
The question was never HOW it works - but WHY it works the way it works.
As such, this is a technical thread.
It's not meant for personal attacks, so I appreciate that you haven't
attacked personally and please note, I never respond to Snit (Brock
McNuggets) nor to Alan Baker so please don't make the mistake of
associating me with them.
You'll note I have not responded to the many personal attacks thrown by
both Chris & Tyrone, so please understand this is a technical thread.
The question is simply WHY iOS asks for your login when you never logged
out. Jan 10, 2026
> I've never experienced being locked out and TBH I had to look up my
> iCloud PW because I rarely have to enter it. I can't remember the last time
in
> fact.
Note you said you 'rarely have to enter it', which is proof that you have
to enter it, which is the beginning of the cascade we're all trying to
better understand from a technical viewpoint.
This isn't personal.
It's technical.
What's wasting all our time is while you and many others admitted that you
get asked, Tyrone and Chris are refusing to accept that fact of iOS life.
Since they refuse to accept that they get asked too, this thread will spin
forever if any conversation requires their agreement of how iOS works.
Luckily, I have taken the liberty to explain to them how iOS works.
And the proof is you've already accepted that you DO get asked.
The problem here is Tyrone and Chris refuse to accept that iOS fact.
Yet the question is simply why does iOS ask for your password when you
never logged out.
> I have a few items like Mail, Messages, Photos etc set to backup from iPhone
> to iCloud and it just works transparently.
> The only time I have really used it when I upgrade to a new iPhone or want to
> archive my photos locally.
I appreciate you're trying to understand what's going on, where there isn't
a "problem" per se, since the question isn't how to solve how iOS works.
The issue is WHY iOS works the way that iOS works with respect to token
expiry and renewal.
I repeat for the effect since you seem to be striving to understand the
purpose of this thread.
There is no "problem" per se, to solve.
The problem is the technical intellectual educational question of how iOS
works with respect to token expiry & re-authentication.
Please ignore all the vitriol from Chris & Tyrone (I don't see anything
from Snit or Alan Baker but I'm sure they are throwing insults too).
Let's focus on why iOS works differently with respect to this topic than
every other common consumer operating system, including, yes, macOS.
> So I'm not sure what Maria is talking about but if these issues were causing
> problems for users the Internet would be overflowing with complaints.
Please understand that Chris & Tyrone are the ones throwing the personal
attacks, not me. They are trying to derail the topic to personal attacks.
They apparently feel it's not fair to ask how iOS works or why it works the
way it works, but I feel that's a perfectly fair technical question on this
ng.
Don't you?
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Nobody can claim to understand how iOS works if they don't understand how
iOS token expiry & renewal processes work differently from all other OS's.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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