XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: mariasophia@comprehension.com
Tyrone wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2026 at 1:37:00 PM EST, "Maria Sophia"
> wrote:
>
>> Tyrone wrote:
>>> Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>
>> Hi Tyrone,
>>
>> The question in this thread is technical and it's about WHY (not how).
>
> But you are technically wrong. iOS does NOT require you to login multiple
> times. Some app(s) that you have are doing that, for unknown reasons. One of
> the links that YOU provided says so.
>
> And that was just ONE link of many that had nothing to do with tokens AND 2
> dead links.
>
> So AGAIN, you have not proved your claim that "Why does iOS require you to
> login". iOS is NOT requiring this. It is YOUR apps AND you still have no
> proved that this is even happening.
>
> Shall I post a screen shot from 2022 to prove that I am not required to enter
> my password?
>
>
>> If people can't understand how it works, they'll never be able to
>> contribute meaningfully to help answer why only iOS works this way.
>
> Which explains YOUR posts in this thread. You DON'T understand how it works
> and thus your contributions ARE bullshit.
>>
>> I've explained how iOS works with respect to token expiry & renewal.
>> You need to comprehend how it works before you can help answer why.
>
> You have "explained" what you believe is happening, with links that say no
> such thing.
>>
>> Since you claim the explanation given is "bullshit", if you think iOS works
>> differently than described, then you should state how you think it works.
>
> YOU are stating "how you think it works". A link YOU provided describes how
> it actually works.
Hi Tyrone,
You keep asserting that "iOS does NOT require you to login multiple
times" and that it "is YOUR apps" doing this, but you have not actually
described a technical model of what you think is happening inside iOS.
Let me separate the pieces, then you can tell us which specific part you
disagree with and what your alternative explanation is.
1. App prompts versus system prompts
When I talk about repeated Apple ID password prompts, I am not talking
about some random third-party app asking for its own login.
I am talking about iOS / iPadOS itself, with only stock Apple apps,
presenting Apple ID password prompts for:
1. iCloud sync and backup
2. App Store app updates and purchases
3. iMessage and FaceTime activation
4. iCloud Keychain
5. Account security and "Apple ID settings" panels
These are system level dialogs tied directly to the Apple ID that owns
the device, not a separate app account.
If your position is that "some app(s) are doing that", then please
name the specific app and explain how that app could trigger system
level Apple ID prompts on a clean device with mainly Apple software
installed.
These prompts are extremely absolutely clearly from Apple herself.
Jan 11, 2026
2. What I am actually claiming
My claim is not "iOS asks you for a password every five minutes".
My technical claim is:
1. Once a device is signed in to an Apple ID, iOS / iPadOS uses
internal credentials (tokens) to authorize iCloud, App Store,
iMessage / FaceTime, and to satisfy server side checks related to
activation and ownership.
2. Those internal credentials expire on some schedule and must be
renewed, which is why everyone eventually sees Apple ID password
prompts even though they never logged out.
You say you don't "remember" those prompts but others did remember.
Your "memory" is not the final arbiter of how iOS really works.
3. If the user refuses to enter the password for a long time, Apple
services degrade (sync stops, App Store updates fail, etc.).
4. If the user refuses for long enough, Apple servers ultimately stop
accepting the stale session, and the device can end up in an
"Apple ID disabled" and Activation Lock state even though it was
never erased or reset. Ask me how I know this.
Note that no other common consumer operating system does that.
Not even macOS.
That description comes from long term testing on real iPads, not from
one developer web page. And certainly not from anyone's faulty "memory".
Oct 27, 2023
Dec 11, 2023
May 20, 2024
Aug 3, 2024
Dec 8, 2024
Dec 10, 2024
Dec 16, 2024
Dec 19, 2024
Apr 8, 2025
Apr 17, 2025
Sept 2, 2025
Oct 31, 2025
Jan 7, 2026
Jan 7/8 2026
Jan 10, 2026
Jan 11, 2026
etc. (I have billions more but that should refute your "memory".)
3. You have said:
1. "iOS does NOT require you to login multiple times."
2. "It is YOUR apps."
3. "You still have not proved that this is even happening."
But you have not provided:
1. Any explanation of how iOS / iPadOS is supposed to behave when the
internal Apple ID credentials expire and the user refuses to
re authenticate for months or years.
2. Any step by step model of what happens to iCloud, App Store,
iMessage / FaceTime, and activation checks under long term
refusal.
3. Any long term test of your own that contradicts the behavior I am
seeing on multiple devices.
A screenshot from 2022 where you happened not to be prompted is not a
technical explanation of how the system works over multi year refusal
of Apple ID password prompts.
4. The link you keep referring to
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