XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: mariasophia@comprehension.com
badgolferman wrote:
> My guess is Arlen's iOS devices constantly nag him to login because he
> refuses do so.
Hi badgolferman,
Thanks for understand my motives.
You understand me well, perhaps because you're not blinded by ideology.
I don't use any operating system only the way the OEM wants me to.
I strive to make any ecosystem bend to my will, my needs, my goals.
One of those goals is privacy.
If I simply added the passwd (even though I never logged out), iOS would
certainly stop nagging me for a while. Nags would pop up later of course.
Because that's how iOS works.
Note that iOS does not work like any other operating system (not even
macOS), but that's a detail that isn't obvious until we understand how iOS
truly works with respect to myriad intertwined tokens which expire and
renew on a poorly documented (but easily tested) timed sequence.
> You have logged in to your Apple account so it doesn't
> nag you unless you're downloading from the Apple Store or messing with
> security settings.
Yup. And it's even more complicated than that. It turns out that some of
the tokens appear to be incestuous, by which I mean signing into some Apple
services renews the tokens silently for other Apple services, but not all.
That's why every user's experience will be different, but every user will
eventually have their devices 'bricked' (Activation Lock) by Apple if they
always refuse to sign into Apple services as some tokens will eventually
expire that cannot be renewed without entering your passwd.
> The same goes with Microsoft Windows 11.
With all due respect, everybody "thinks" that, but Windows 11 does not
require any MSA account if you follow the well-publicized known tricks.
Ask me how I know this fact that most people don't seem to understand...
From: Maria Sophia
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebui
t,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject: PSA: I can happily report that my first Win11 Home installed sans a
MSA
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 15:24:16 -0500
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> Remember that Arlen's #1 priority with his devices is privacy so he will
> bend over backwards to avoid logging in or enabling location services.
> Those alone will require verification of identity numerous times.
You're close... but it's only my secondary goal...
What's interesting is that when I first entered the Apple mobile device
world, it was with Costco iPods on sale, where I was astounded how
difficult Apple made something as simple as sliding MP3 files back & forth.
Then I bought an iPhone for my teen-age child where I was dismayed that
AT&T was the only carrier so I had to jailbreak it to work with T-Mobile.
Finally, I started buying iPads and iPhones as stocking stuffers, where
when I set them up, I was dumbfounded by the unnecessary use restrictions.
In all these cases, I am merely trying to get the Apple device to work the
way all other similar devices work & not only the way Apple wants it to be.
That's my #1 priority.
Getting any Apple device to do what I want it to do.
To make an Apple device do what it should do is a lesson in humility,
perseverance & intellectual understanding that cannot be underestimated.
My #2 priority is privacy. :)
But that's basically impossible on any mobile device, least of all Apple's.
--
If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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