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   Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=    
   news:10kh4ao$2tq7m$11@dont-email.me Sat, 17 Jan 2026 23:00:41 GMT in   
   comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
      
   > On 17 Jan 2026 19:42:00 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Jan 17, 2026 at 1:31:32 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote   
   >> :   
   >>   
   >>> It reminds me of the old days of DOS and self contained programs.   
   >>> No installer BS. Unzip into an empty folder of my choosing and away   
   >>> you go.   
   >>   
   >> Sort of like how macOS handles most installations.   
   >   
   > Don’t you wish macOS had something like these Flatpak/Snap/AppImage   
   > things on Linux? Nothing to unzip, even.   
      
   It's not even necessary to put them into an empty folder by themselves.   
   You could store a pile of them in say 'useful apps' and they'd do just   
   fine, completely self contained. No dependency hell risk, just a fully   
   functional up to date program that didn't care which distro you were using.   
   I was heavily into them when I was still doing the 3D print thing. Cura   
   was a daily goto. And I wanted to make sure I was using the latest version   
   for the bug fixes and additional support for the capabilities of my   
   printers.   
      
   I've just never been a fan of Apple products. I don't mind working on them   
   though. At the component level, aside from propreitary ICs and specific   
   circuit designs, they aren't much different than other non Apple rigs.   
   Some of their decisions do make me scratch my head with a 'what the fuck   
   made you think this was a good design?' They just don't have consumer   
   friendly designs under the hood in many cases. If I had for example two   
   macs that are supposed to be the same make and model but one is dead and I   
   have a donor board, there's a limit to which components can be pulled from   
   the donor board to try and get the other machine back up and running.   
   Apple thought it wise to mate various components to the ones already   
   present on the dead one for example. The IC that runs the touch pad is one   
   of many mated components.   
      
   Soldering the HDD into the circuit is another anti consumer thing that   
   Apple is known for doing with the blessing of the Apple user community for   
   the most part. A component that is expected to fail at some point. A   
   normal PC would in most cases allow you to replace the drive or change it   
   out for a larger one if you so desired. Apple didn't think this was   
   necessary in some design cases. Some Apple users think it's perfectly   
   acceptable to resort to running the machine entirely from an external hard   
   disk when the soldered internal HD kicks the bucket in a non take the   
   system down with you manner. A laptop is intended to be portable. Having   
   to carry around it's hard disk as a physically seperate item from the   
   machine takes away from the portability aspect, imo. It's a stop gap   
   measure to keep the machine running.   
      
   It would have made more sense, imo, to allow the user to replace the drive   
   if/when it fails. They went and pulled this shit on some makes and models   
   with the RAM too. The fucking ram. Grrr. I much prefer the PCs which don't   
   solder such components onto the mainboard - which gives me the freedom to   
   upgrade as I like and replace bad components when necessary. Some PC   
   manufacturers also followed Apple in this regard, but, they are typically   
   low end and inexpensive rigs that opted to go this route. The more   
   expensive, standard ones, would allow such components to be changed out.   
      
   This laptop for example doesn't have critical components like the HD or   
   ram soldered onto the mainboard. I'm free to upgrade as I like. This   
   particular model will actually accomodate three internal HDs. It has slots   
   for two NVME as well as one SATA based laptop dimensioned SSD. It doesn't   
   have the access panels on the bottom to reach those specific areas though;   
   you have to remove the bottom of the case. Which is fine, it allows access   
   to the cooling assembly so you can do some house keeping while you've got   
   the internals exposed.   
      
   --   
   Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?   
   Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent   
   Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?   
   Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government   
      
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