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   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-17 21:27, Gremlin wrote:   
   > Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=    
   > news:10kh4ao$2tq7m$11@dont-email.me Sat, 17 Jan 2026 23:00:41 GMT in   
   > comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 17 Jan 2026 19:42:00 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Jan 17, 2026 at 1:31:32 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote   
   >>> :   
   >>>   
   >>>> It reminds me of the old days of DOS and self contained programs.   
   >>>> No installer BS. Unzip into an empty folder of my choosing and away   
   >>>> you go.   
   >>>   
   >>> Sort of like how macOS handles most installations.   
   >>   
   >> Don’t you wish macOS had something like these Flatpak/Snap/AppImage   
   >> things on Linux? Nothing to unzip, even.   
   >   
   > It's not even necessary to put them into an empty folder by themselves.   
   > You could store a pile of them in say 'useful apps' and they'd do just   
   > fine, completely self contained. No dependency hell risk, just a fully   
   > functional up to date program that didn't care which distro you were using.   
   > I was heavily into them when I was still doing the 3D print thing. Cura   
   > was a daily goto. And I wanted to make sure I was using the latest version   
   > for the bug fixes and additional support for the capabilities of my   
   > printers.   
   >   
   > I've just never been a fan of Apple products. I don't mind working on them   
   > though. At the component level, aside from propreitary ICs and specific   
   > circuit designs, they aren't much different than other non Apple rigs.   
   > Some of their decisions do make me scratch my head with a 'what the fuck   
   > made you think this was a good design?' They just don't have consumer   
   > friendly designs under the hood in many cases. If I had for example two   
   > macs that are supposed to be the same make and model but one is dead and I   
   > have a donor board, there's a limit to which components can be pulled from   
   > the donor board to try and get the other machine back up and running.   
   > Apple thought it wise to mate various components to the ones already   
   > present on the dead one for example. The IC that runs the touch pad is one   
   > of many mated components.   
   >   
   > Soldering the HDD into the circuit is another anti consumer thing that   
      
   Not an "HDD" at all.   
      
   > Apple is known for doing with the blessing of the Apple user community for   
   > the most part. A component that is expected to fail at some point. A   
      
   At what point? What is it's expected lifespan?   
      
   > normal PC would in most cases allow you to replace the drive or change it   
   > out for a larger one if you so desired. Apple didn't think this was   
   > necessary in some design cases. Some Apple users think it's perfectly   
   > acceptable to resort to running the machine entirely from an external hard   
   > disk when the soldered internal HD kicks the bucket in a non take the   
      
   Nope. No one said that. What was said was that the SSD dying didn't turn   
   the machine into a "paperweight"...   
      
   ...as you claimed.   
      
   > system down with you manner. A laptop is intended to be portable. Having   
      
   We'll come back to this.   
      
   > to carry around it's hard disk as a physically seperate item from the   
   > machine takes away from the portability aspect, imo. It's a stop gap   
   > measure to keep the machine running.   
      
   Would it have to be "physically separate"...   
      
   ...or could some clever company not make one that attaches   
   (semi-)permanently to the bottom of the machine.   
      
   >   
   > It would have made more sense, imo, to allow the user to replace the drive   
   > if/when it fails. They went and pulled this shit on some makes and models   
   > with the RAM too. The fucking ram. Grrr. I much prefer the PCs which don't   
   > solder such components onto the mainboard - which gives me the freedom to   
   > upgrade as I like and replace bad components when necessary. Some PC   
   > manufacturers also followed Apple in this regard, but, they are typically   
   > low end and inexpensive rigs that opted to go this route. The more   
   > expensive, standard ones, would allow such components to be changed out.   
   >   
      
   But the components that they DO solder...   
      
   ...you're fine with those, right?   
      
   > This laptop for example doesn't have critical components like the HD or   
   > ram soldered onto the mainboard. I'm free to upgrade as I like. This   
   > particular model will actually accomodate three internal HDs. It has slots   
   > for two NVME as well as one SATA based laptop dimensioned SSD. It doesn't   
   > have the access panels on the bottom to reach those specific areas though;   
   > you have to remove the bottom of the case. Which is fine, it allows access   
   > to the cooling assembly so you can do some house keeping while you've got   
   > the internals exposed.   
   >   
      
   What laptop would that be, hmmm?   
      
   And how much does it weigh and how bulky is it?   
      
   My M3 MacBook Air weighs 2.7 lb (1.24 kg) and has a volume of just over   
   45 cubic inches.   
      
   Do you think that perhaps a modern   
      
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