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   vallor to Alan   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   20 Jan 26 20:28:27   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: vallor@vallor.earth   
      
   At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:19:28 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
      
   > On 2026-01-20 12:14, vallor wrote:   
   > > At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > >>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.	You usually get a .dmg which   
   > >>>> you mount, then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias   
   > >>>> for the system app folders.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?	There doesn't   
   > >>>> seem to be much of a package manager involved.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the   
   > >>>> system.	When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to   
   > >>>> take away the app without touching config files -- but with the   
   > >>>> apt/dpkg "purge" option, the package system will clean out the   
   > >>>> config files, too.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its   
   > >>> settings remain. You have to manually delete the folder in   
   > >>> .config the same way you would in any other operating system. Of   
   > >>> course, it's a lot easier to do on Linux since those folders are   
   > >>> exactly where you would expect them to be, not lost in the   
   > >>> registry or some obscure folder.   
   > >>   
   > >> LOL!   
   > >>   
   > >> Riiiiiiiight.   
   > >>   
   > >> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   > >>   
   > >> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with   
   > >> something being wrong.   
   > >   
   > > You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe.   
   > > BTW, the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra   
   > > storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to   
   > > purchase in the Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking   
   > > of it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   > >   
   > > Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has   
   > > been installed -- each and every file.   
   >   
   > And apps on the Mac keep all of their functional parts within the app   
   > package.   
      
   But not their config files, according to   
      
   <696fe2ea$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>   
      
      
   >   
   > >   
   > > In the case of apt/dpkg, you can "purge" the system config files   
   > > with the software.  I'm not sure if that's available with dnf/rpm.   
   > >   
   > > Ever deal with kext's?  I did a few Macs back, to get the DAW   
   > > to talk to a Motif ES 8.   
   > Sure. I've dealt with plenty of kexts (an apostrophe is not necessary   
   > to make "kext" plural").   
   >   
   > What was the kext and how was it installed?   
      
   It was on a CD, and it was the driver to talk MIDI over USB   
   to the Motif ES 8 keyboard.   
      
   It was so long ago, I forget what was involved, but I do remember   
   it being a pain in the neck.   
      
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