XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: nuh-uh@nope.com
On 2026-01-20 12:28, vallor wrote:
> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:19:28 -0800, Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2026-01-20 12:14, vallor wrote:
>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app. You usually get a .dmg which
>>>>>> you mount, then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias
>>>>>> for the system app folders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall? There doesn't
>>>>>> seem to be much of a package manager involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the
>>>>>> system. When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to
>>>>>> take away the app without touching config files -- but with the
>>>>>> apt/dpkg "purge" option, the package system will clean out the
>>>>>> config files, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its
>>>>> settings remain. You have to manually delete the folder in
>>>>> .config the same way you would in any other operating system. Of
>>>>> course, it's a lot easier to do on Linux since those folders are
>>>>> exactly where you would expect them to be, not lost in the
>>>>> registry or some obscure folder.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Riiiiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?
>>>>
>>>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with
>>>> something being wrong.
>>>
>>> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe.
>>> BTW, the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra
>>> storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to
>>> purchase in the Apple store. (I justified the expense by thinking
>>> of it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)
>>>
>>> Anyhow: On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has
>>> been installed -- each and every file.
>>
>> And apps on the Mac keep all of their functional parts within the app
>> package.
>
> But not their config files, according to
>
> <696fe2ea$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
So what? They're easily found.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> In the case of apt/dpkg, you can "purge" the system config files
>>> with the software. I'm not sure if that's available with dnf/rpm.
>>>
>>> Ever deal with kext's? I did a few Macs back, to get the DAW
>>> to talk to a Motif ES 8.
>> Sure. I've dealt with plenty of kexts (an apostrophe is not necessary
>> to make "kext" plural").
>>
>> What was the kext and how was it installed?
>
> It was on a CD, and it was the driver to talk MIDI over USB
> to the Motif ES 8 keyboard.
>
> It was so long ago, I forget what was involved, but I do remember
> it being a pain in the neck.
And did you drag a kext by hand to the appropriate folder? No.
You used an installer package:
"Yamaha USB-MIDI Driver V1.3.2.pkg"
Which macOS's "Installer" app used to actually install the kext (and
other things if there were any).
And on the CD right next to that was:
"Uninstall Yamaha USB-MIDI Driver.app"
So where required, there is an uninstaller.
As it happens, I've got one of the successors to your Motif ES8 standing
in a corner waiting for me to play it (badly) again: a MOXF8
BTW, there is a macOS command line utility called "pkgutil" which lets
you see every package installed using Installer?
I agree, that there should be an OS-provided uninstaller, given that all
the necessary information is in there, but there are uninstaller apps
out there that will do the job and for free.
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