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   CrudeSausage to -hh   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   21 Jan 26 02:40:59   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: crude@sausa.ge   
      
   On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:25:47 -0500, -hh wrote:   
      
   > On 1/20/26 19:16, Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-20 15:17, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:14:48 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.  You usually get a .dmg which you   
   >>>>>>> mount,   
   >>>>>>> then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for the system   
   >>>>>>> app folders.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?  There doesn't   
   >>>>>>> seem to be much of a package manager involved.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the system.   
   >>>>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away   
   >>>>>>> the app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg   
   >>>>>>> "purge" option, the package system will clean out the config   
   >>>>>>> files, too.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its settings   
   >>>>>> remain. You have to manually delete the folder in .config the same   
   >>>>>> way you would in any other operating system. Of course, it's a lot   
   >>>>>> easier to do on Linux since those folders are exactly where you   
   >>>>>> would expect them to be, not lost in the registry or some obscure   
   >>>>>> folder.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Riiiiiiiight.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with something   
   >>>>> being wrong.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe. BTW,   
   >>>> the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra   
   >>>> storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to   
   >>>> purchase in the Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking of   
   >>>> it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has been   
   >>>> installed -- each and every file.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In the case of apt/dpkg, you can "purge" the system config files with   
   >>>> the software.  I'm not sure if that's available with dnf/rpm.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ever deal with kext's?  I did a few Macs back, to get the DAW to talk   
   >>>> to a Motif ES 8.   
   >>>   
   >>> I just find it unfortunate that Anal is still replying to me. I am so   
   >>> tired of his zealoty that I just put him in the killfile. No matter   
   >>> what Apple does, it's always right in the minds of these people. Even   
   >>> when their MacBook self-destruct when the TBW is reached, this is a   
   >>> good thing.   
   >>   
   >> Still waiting for proof that:   
   >>   
   >> 1. SSDs die all at once because some storage locations die.   
   >>   
   >> 2. That Macs with a dead SSD can't boot.   
   >>   
   >> And NO: I will go looking in a half hour video to find it.   
   >   
   > Not my dog in this hunt, but I'll kibbutz with a Q:   
   >   
   > 1a)  Even if true, is it unique to only one computer brand so as to   
   > merit a criticism of that brand, or is it as a universal issue for all   
   > computers which use SSDs?   
   >   
   > 2a) Same question for this failure mode as the above.   
   >   
   >   
   > -hh   
      
   Here's a fun one for Anal:   
      
      
      
   As for the proof he is looking for, I provided it a long time ago. I have   
   no interest in posting it ad nauseum until he accepts the evidence. In   
   fact, I don't want to communicate with him at all.   
      
      
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   CrudeSausage   
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