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   Alan to CrudeSausage   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   20 Jan 26 16:16:34   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-20 15:17, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:14:48 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >   
   >> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.  You usually get a .dmg which you   
   >>>>> mount,   
   >>>>> then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for the system   
   >>>>> app folders.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?  There doesn't seem   
   >>>>> to be much of a package manager involved.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the system.   
   >>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away the   
   >>>>> app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg "purge"   
   >>>>> option, the package system will clean out the config files, too.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its settings   
   >>>> remain. You have to manually delete the folder in .config the same   
   >>>> way you would in any other operating system. Of course, it's a lot   
   >>>> easier to do on Linux since those folders are exactly where you would   
   >>>> expect them to be, not lost in the registry or some obscure folder.   
   >>>   
   >>> LOL!   
   >>>   
   >>> Riiiiiiiight.   
   >>>   
   >>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   >>>   
   >>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with something   
   >>> being wrong.   
   >>   
   >> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe. BTW, the   
   >> 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra storage, as   
   >> well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to purchase in the   
   >> Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking of it as a Unix   
   >> workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   >>   
   >> Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has been   
   >> installed -- each and every file.   
   >>   
   >> In the case of apt/dpkg, you can "purge" the system config files with   
   >> the software.  I'm not sure if that's available with dnf/rpm.   
   >>   
   >> Ever deal with kext's?  I did a few Macs back, to get the DAW to talk to   
   >> a Motif ES 8.   
   >   
   > I just find it unfortunate that Anal is still replying to me. I am so   
   > tired of his zealoty that I just put him in the killfile. No matter what   
   > Apple does, it's always right in the minds of these people. Even when   
   > their MacBook self-destruct when the TBW is reached, this is a good thing.   
   Still waiting for proof that:   
      
   1. SSDs die all at once because some storage locations die.   
      
   2. That Macs with a dead SSD can't boot.   
      
   And NO: I will go looking in a half hour video to find it.   
      
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