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   Alan to CrudeSausage   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   20 Jan 26 18:49:42   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-20 18:40, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:25:47 -0500, -hh wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/20/26 19:16, Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-01-20 15:17, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:14:48 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.  You usually get a .dmg which you   
   >>>>>>>> mount,   
   >>>>>>>> then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for the system   
   >>>>>>>> app folders.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?  There doesn't   
   >>>>>>>> seem to be much of a package manager involved.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the system.   
   >>>>>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away   
   >>>>>>>> the app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg   
   >>>>>>>> "purge" option, the package system will clean out the config   
   >>>>>>>> files, too.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its settings   
   >>>>>>> remain. You have to manually delete the folder in .config the same   
   >>>>>>> way you would in any other operating system. Of course, it's a lot   
   >>>>>>> easier to do on Linux since those folders are exactly where you   
   >>>>>>> would expect them to be, not lost in the registry or some obscure   
   >>>>>>> folder.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Riiiiiiiight.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with something   
   >>>>>> being wrong.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe. BTW,   
   >>>>> the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra   
   >>>>> storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to   
   >>>>> purchase in the Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking of   
   >>>>> it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has been   
   >>>>> installed -- each and every file.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In the case of apt/dpkg, you can "purge" the system config files with   
   >>>>> the software.  I'm not sure if that's available with dnf/rpm.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Ever deal with kext's?  I did a few Macs back, to get the DAW to talk   
   >>>>> to a Motif ES 8.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I just find it unfortunate that Anal is still replying to me. I am so   
   >>>> tired of his zealoty that I just put him in the killfile. No matter   
   >>>> what Apple does, it's always right in the minds of these people. Even   
   >>>> when their MacBook self-destruct when the TBW is reached, this is a   
   >>>> good thing.   
   >>>   
   >>> Still waiting for proof that:   
   >>>   
   >>> 1. SSDs die all at once because some storage locations die.   
   >>>   
   >>> 2. That Macs with a dead SSD can't boot.   
   >>>   
   >>> And NO: I will go looking in a half hour video to find it.   
   >>   
   >> Not my dog in this hunt, but I'll kibbutz with a Q:   
   >>   
   >> 1a)  Even if true, is it unique to only one computer brand so as to   
   >> merit a criticism of that brand, or is it as a universal issue for all   
   >> computers which use SSDs?   
   >>   
   >> 2a) Same question for this failure mode as the above.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> -hh   
   >   
   > Here's a fun one for Anal:   
   >   
   >  reports-explained/>   
      
   So, in no way relevant to the subject under discussion.   
      
   Got it.   
      
   >   
   > As for the proof he is looking for, I provided it a long time ago. I have   
   > no interest in posting it ad nauseum until he accepts the evidence. In   
   > fact, I don't want to communicate with him at all.   
   And yet you throw in your lame attempt to insult.   
      
   Got it.   
      
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