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   Chris Ahlstrom to Alan   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   21 Jan 26 18:51:12   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us   
      
   Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
      
   > On 2026-01-21 09:10, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:28:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:19:28 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2026-01-20 12:14, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.	You usually get a .dmg which you   
   >>>>>>>> mount, then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for the   
   >>>>>>>> system app folders.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?	There doesn't seem   
   >>>>>>>> to be much of a package manager involved.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the system.   
   >>>>>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away   
   >>>>>>>> the app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg   
   >>>>>>>> "purge" option, the package system will clean out the config   
   >>>>>>>> files, too.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its settings   
   >>>>>>> remain. You have to manually delete the folder in .config the same   
   >>>>>>> way you would in any other operating system. Of course, it's a lot   
   >>>>>>> easier to do on Linux since those folders are exactly where you   
   >>>>>>> would expect them to be, not lost in the registry or some obscure   
   >>>>>>> folder.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Riiiiiiiight.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with something   
   >>>>>> being wrong.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe. BTW,   
   >>>>> the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra   
   >>>>> storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to   
   >>>>> purchase in the Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking of   
   >>>>> it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has been   
   >>>>> installed -- each and every file.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And apps on the Mac keep all of their functional parts within the app   
   >>>> package.   
   >>>   
   >>> But not their config files, according to   
   >>>   
   >>> <696fe2ea$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>   
   >>   
   >> This is what I meant by "obscure folder."   
   >>   
   >> < snip >   
   >   
   > ~/Library/ is "obscure" to you?   
      
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