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   Sedona Pete to All   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   21 Jan 26 19:45:33   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: peterbuiltsedona@trux.net   
      
   In article <69716da3$1$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,   
   crude@sausa.ge says...   
   >   
   > On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 18:51:12 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:   
   >   
   > > Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
   > >   
   > >> On 2026-01-21 09:10, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > >>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:28:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:19:28 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> On 2026-01-20 12:14, vallor wrote:   
   > >>>>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.	You usually get a .dmg   
   > which you   
   > >>>>>>>>> mount, then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for   
   > >>>>>>>>> the system app folders.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?	There   
   > doesn't   
   > >>>>>>>>> seem to be much of a package manager involved.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the   
   > >>>>>>>>> system.   
   > >>>>>>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away   
   > >>>>>>>>> the app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg   
   > >>>>>>>>> "purge" option, the package system will clean out the config   
   > >>>>>>>>> files, too.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its   
   > >>>>>>>> settings remain. You have to manually delete the folder in   
   > >>>>>>>> .config the same way you would in any other operating system. Of   
   > >>>>>>>> course, it's a lot easier to do on Linux since those folders are   
   > >>>>>>>> exactly where you would expect them to be, not lost in the   
   > >>>>>>>> registry or some obscure folder.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> LOL!   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Riiiiiiiight.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with   
   > >>>>>>> something being wrong.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe. BTW,   
   > >>>>>> the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra   
   > >>>>>> storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to   
   > >>>>>> purchase in the Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking   
   > >>>>>> of it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has   
   > >>>>>> been installed -- each and every file.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> And apps on the Mac keep all of their functional parts within the   
   > >>>>> app package.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> But not their config files, according to   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> <696fe2ea$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> This is what I meant by "obscure folder."   
   > >>>   
   > >>> < snip >   
   > >>   
   > >> ~/Library/ is "obscure" to you?   
   > >   
   > > It is until you know about it :-D   
   >   
   > Maybe I didn't get the chance to know about it because my computer   
   > committed suicide as a result of me using the NVMe too much. Anal sees   
   > that as a feature.   
      
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