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   Alan to Chris Ahlstrom   
   Re: The trouble with Mac apps vs. Linux    
   21 Jan 26 18:46:47   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-21 15:51, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:   
   > Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-21 09:10, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:28:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:19:28 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2026-01-20 12:14, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>>> At Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:23:37 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 2026-01-20 09:47, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 16:39:27 +0000, vallor wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So say you side-load a Mac app.	You usually get a .dmg which you   
   >>>>>>>>> mount, then drag the app folder on top of the handy alias for the   
   >>>>>>>>> system app folders.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> That's fine, but what if you want to uninstall?	There doesn't seem   
   >>>>>>>>> to be much of a package manager involved.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But on Linux, apps are in packages that are tracked by the system.   
   >>>>>>>>> When you uninstall an app on Linux, the default is to take away   
   >>>>>>>>> the app without touching config files -- but with the apt/dpkg   
   >>>>>>>>> "purge" option, the package system will clean out the config   
   >>>>>>>>> files, too.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> (Not user dot-files though, those are yours to keep.)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Generally, even after I purge an application in Linux, its settings   
   >>>>>>>> remain. You have to manually delete the folder in .config the same   
   >>>>>>>> way you would in any other operating system. Of course, it's a lot   
   >>>>>>>> easier to do on Linux since those folders are exactly where you   
   >>>>>>>> would expect them to be, not lost in the registry or some obscure   
   >>>>>>>> folder.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Riiiiiiiight.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What is "obscure" about the folders used in macOS?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Like so many do, you confuse what you are not USED TO with something   
   >>>>>>> being wrong.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You forget that I have a Mac Studio, and it is running Tahoe. BTW,   
   >>>>>> the 64GB and Apple M2 Ultra processor, coupled with the extra   
   >>>>>> storage, as well as the Studio monitor, ended up north of $7K to   
   >>>>>> purchase in the Apple store.  (I justified the expense by thinking of   
   >>>>>> it as a Unix workstation -- which it ultimately is.)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Anyhow:  On Linux, apt/dpkg (and dnf/rpm) keep track of what has been   
   >>>>>> installed -- each and every file.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And apps on the Mac keep all of their functional parts within the app   
   >>>>> package.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But not their config files, according to   
   >>>>   
   >>>> <696fe2ea$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>   
   >>>   
   >>> This is what I meant by "obscure folder."   
   >>>   
   >>> < snip >   
   >>   
   >> ~/Library/ is "obscure" to you?   
   >   
   > It is until you know about it :-D   
   >   
      
   Anything is obscure until you know about it, yeah   
      
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