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   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-01-24 20:59, Gremlin wrote:   
   > Alan  news:10l41ij$18fbn$1@dont-email.me Sun, 25 Jan 2026   
   > 03:10:11 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-24 16:49, Gremlin wrote:   
   >>> chrisv    
   >>> news:ucf2nkhovbtqnjl0js8pjrb0nu8jlq2ilh@4ax.com Wed, 21 Jan 2026   
   >>> 21:01:33 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> -hh wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Once it dies, it sends a 13V shock to other   
   >>>>>>> components essentially killing the entire computer. Even if you   
   >>>>>>> manage to replace the NVMe and replace any damaged parts, you're   
   >>>>>>> still going to be missing the required data to boot the computer.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> How would you defend that?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Simple:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If the NVMe is socketed instead of being soldered, explain how this   
   >>>>>> design difference prevents the 13V spike from also being fatal?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You're answering a question with a question. Are you a muhammedan?   
   >>>>> How about you be specific for a change, especially since we both know   
   >>>>> that Apple products no longer offer anything that is socketed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The question is, would the same Flash IC failure in a X86 PC with   
   >>>> socketed NVMe also "send a shock" that would kill the computer?   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope. The PC would be fine. It's not designed to EOL when the internal   
   >>> drive does. :) That's an Apple thing.   
   >> This was about a "13V spike".   
   >   
   > I'm aware. The answer would still be Nope. That spike is popular with   
   > specific Apple models.   
      
   Oh! And you've made up a new story!   
      
   What is your source for a "13V spike" being an exclusively a problem   
   with Macs?   
      
   >   
   >> How does a socket protect against that, exactly?   
   >   
   > I've never said that a socket would protect you from anything, specifically,   
   > Alan.   
      
   Actually, that is PRECISELY what you said.   
      
   Let me isolate it for you:   
      
   'The question is, would the same Flash IC failure in a X86 PC with   
   socketed NVMe also "send a shock" that would kill the computer?   
      
   Nope.'   
      
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