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   From: nobody@haph.org   
      
   Alan  news:10lk4ep$2lvee$4@dont-email.me Sat, 31 Jan 2026   
   05:37:29 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:   
      
   > On 2026-01-29 20:15, Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-29 19:14, Gremlin wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> The NANDs Apple is using aren't standard. They are a proprietary   
   >>> design. Those   
   >>> video links I shared previously go into greater detail concerning that   
   >>> as well   
   >>> as the issues they tend to develop which renders the computer a   
   >>> paperweight.   
   >>> It's a problem which has not been fixed.   
   >> ...and you're quite wrong.   
   >>   
   >> Apple uses standard NAND chips sourced from various suppliers.   
   >>   
   >> They do you proprietary CONTROLLER chip designs.   
   >>   
   >> Oops for you, huh?   
   >   
   > Convenient when you chose to stop replying to me...   
   >   
   > ...isn't it?   
   >   
   >:-)   
      
   I'm aware of your interest in the game of semantics as well as a few other   
   Snit like qualities you have. with that,   
   We have one snit already and that's more than anyone needs. Unlike Snit,   
   and possibly yourself?, I continue to work for a living and am not on   
   usenet every day. There could be days if not weeks or more between replies.   
   Especially if my job requires me to go out of state. So slow your roll and   
   don't have a PE here. No girl appreciates that, btw. :)   
      
   Semantics and a few other things are your goto for trolling. The subject   
   change was funny. A very adult thing to do. Especially if you didn't 'win'   
   the arguement. Just so you know though, I never considered this to be an   
   arguement. You were years behind concerning Apple and I've brought you   
   upto speed in so far as what you can/cannot do when the internal SSD dies   
   on you. I wasn't writing about no longer being able to write to it reliably   
   (at all); I was specific in stating when it dies. As in hardware failure   
   dies. When that happens you have a paperweight.   
      
   For a PC it's almost always no big deal. Replace drive, go on about your   
   day. If the drive is soldered and you have a shorted NAND, remove the   
   NANDS and replace with new if you want; there's no specialized firmware or   
   mating process that has occured making the new chips unable to function on   
   the board. Unlike with Apple. You can't just do that. They don't like   
   keeping things standard/normal. Even if it was originally before they got   
   their hands on it. Pesky semantics. You probably thought you had something   
   there; as you thought you did when you googled 'can I use an external   
   drive to boot my mac' (sure, but, on a modern mac, the internal SSD has to   
   be functional) - that's one hell of a special design decision. That you're   
   required to have a working internal drive in order to boot from an   
   external drive.   
      
   I've stated this several times, I've supported my statements. Your efforts   
   to ignore them and place conditions on how you will review the evidence or   
   that you don't appreciate the formats provided and demand they be provided   
   in another or it didn't happen in the first place - really doesn't matter.   
   At this point, We're just going in circles here. There's no point or   
   advantage for either of us to do this. It makes about as much sense as -hh   
   did when he brought up capacitors being soldered onto the mainboards of   
   PCs and Mac. Of course they are - and a lot more electronics. They have   
   several possible uses. Quite common components actually. Nothing to do   
   with the subject I was writing about though. I give them a rocking A for   
   effort concerning the troll by doing that though. It was very creative!   
   And not in the least bit sarcastic or made to be insulting. I respect that.   
   It was good.   
      
   I work on PCs as well, mostly PCs. I've never stated that they were   
   perfect. I've replaced blown components on them too. I've changed the   
   display panels, touchpads, keyboards, power jacks. Soldered SSD drive on   
   some real cheap bastards, as well as the socket style where changing was   
   easy. I'm not sold on the method a lot of them use to actually hold the   
   SSD in place though. I think it's a dumb thing to do. Replaced blown   
   diodes, Mosfets, resistors, etc. The important thing and only reason I   
   even mentioned them is that those components fail on anything and are not   
   that difficult or expensive in many cases to replace. Most importantly,   
   the PCs which had these issues, didn't require many components to be   
   replaced and were all put back in service- they didn't blow up anything   
   MATED or that would otherwise totally screw you. FFS, you could replace   
   the damn CPU if you needed to do so. Lack of proprietary is a good thing.   
      
   Btw, changing the subject line? C'mon. I know you aren't a total lamer.   
      
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