XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com   
      
   On 3/4/26 23:51, Alan wrote:   
   > On 2026-03-04 18:27, rbowman wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 18:58:04 -0500, -hh wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 3/4/26 16:33, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>> On 3/4/2026 3:59 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>>> On 3/4/26 08:24, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 3/4/2026 6:56 AM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 3/4/26 00:36, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 3/4/2026 12:15 AM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Which still doesn't address that there is a performance increase   
   >>>>>>>>> (a speed increase) in switching from the 256GB SSD to the 512GB   
   >>>>>>>>> SSD.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> OK, and it costs $800.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> False; the performance increase being discussed happened at +$200.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What is 600+200?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That $800 is the total cost isn't germane to the context, which was   
   >>>>> the $200 incremental cost for going from 256 to 512GB.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Bullshit, Apple demands cash, people pay.   
   >>>   
   >>> That people do pay ... and often enough that Apple stays in business ...   
   >>> is proof that their marketplace pricing isn't far from correct.   
   >>   
   >> How the Macbook Neo performs in the market will be interesting. $600   
   >> certainly is a low entry price for an Apple computer but there are many   
   >> choices in the x64 world in that range too. Will it attract the   
   >> Chromebook and bottom shelf laptop crowd that is spending less than $400?   
      
   Agreed.  On the surface, it initially seemed to me to be merely an iPad   
   with an attached keyboard, but it is also de-contented in that it   
   doesn't have a touchscreen.  Looks like the product line segmentation   
   that Apple set for adding a touchscreen & detachable keyboard is ~$100.   
      
      
   >> When I bought the Swift 3 6 years ago it was $680 so that is in the same   
   >> range. However it has 16 GB of RAM and double the SSD.   
      
   The customer segment for both appears to be more the EDU market, for   
   which the use case is similarly quite light duty like what Joel is   
   apparently content with.   
      
   But when comparing costs, that's become a harder challenge as the AI   
   surge has driven up hardware costs already, so that has to be baked into   
   any new product offering today, including their component price   
   expectations for the next year.  For example, I thought I read this   
   spring that Apple's price for memory from Samsung has reportedly doubled.   
      
   Personally, I've noticed that an SSD that I bought ~17 months ago is now   
   selling for roughly twice what I bought mine for.  Similarly, on HDDs, I   
   needed a new backup spare and just spent $280 for a 12TB...versus three   
   years when a 14TB was $183: that's +50% more for 15% less capacity.   
      
      
   >> Oh, and the fingerprint reader wasn't a $100 option.   
   >>   
   > To be completely clear, the extra $100 gets you the fingerprint reader...   
   > ...AND a 512GB SSD.   
   >   
   > So it's a better deal than you gave it credit for.   
      
   I overlooked that on my first quick read-through on the product; its an   
   interesting bundling choice.   
      
   -hh   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)