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   Joel W. Crump to Alan   
   Re: Garbage In Garbage Out   
   05 Mar 26 15:18:55   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: joelcrump@gmail.com   
      
   On 3/4/2026 11:46 PM, Alan wrote:   
   > On 2026-03-04 18:22, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   >> On 3/4/2026 8:59 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-03-04 17:48, pothead wrote:   
   >>>> On 2026-03-05, Joel W. Crump  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 3/4/2026 6:53 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> A competitively priced mini PC with Win11 Pro will be far less.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Really?  I doubt it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Cite a real world example.   
   >>>>>>>>>> An OEM standard stock item, with product part#.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It's very clear that this is a move by Apple to secure money from   
   >>>>>>>>> people who are beholden to its platform.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Dodge.  Because you know that your $390 system isn't a peer.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm using it here, at least.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's an admission you know it's far slower.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Less than you would think.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Here is a comparison between a Pro Mac Mini M4 and an HP Ryzen Pro   
   >>>> Max Mini.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Both are in a different price range than your PC but are very close   
   >>>> in price.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://youtu.be/OrpQOn5I71k?si=-PUzjLwb4QUHHy3n   
   >>   
   >>> Exactly. To get Mac Mini performance from an established OEM...   
   >>>   
   >>> ...you need to pay Mac Mini prices.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thank you for being at least this honest. :-)   
   >>   
   >> HP is irrelevant to anything, and yet it is the brand I bought for a   
   >> laptop.   
   >   
   > At least she had the balls (Ironic, isn't it?) to address the question.   
      
      
   You're seriously trippin', Alan, it's a joke to think about getting a   
   mini PC from HP, today.  The form factor isn't even really comparable.   
   The basic point I made is sound, if you aren't hallucinating massive   
   advantage from CPU alone (this point really *is* sometimes comparable to   
   OEM PCs, which is what Apple is competing with on *price*), the Apple is   
   going to cost more and more to overtake the real specs of what I have.   
      
   --   
   Joel W. Crump   
      
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