XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-03-05 14:22, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 3/5/2026 5:12 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>> Exactly. To get Mac Mini performance from an established OEM...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...you need to pay Mac Mini prices.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Thank you for being at least this honest. 🙂   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> HP is irrelevant to anything, and yet it is the brand I bought for   
   >>>>> a laptop.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> At least she had the balls (Ironic, isn't it?) to address the question.   
   >>>   
   >>> You're seriously trippin', Alan, it's a joke to think about getting a   
   >>> mini PC from HP, today.  The form factor isn't even really   
   >>> comparable. The basic point I made is sound, if you aren't   
   >>> hallucinating massive advantage from CPU alone (this point really   
   >>> *is* sometimes comparable to OEM PCs, which is what Apple is   
   >>> competing with on *price*), the Apple is going to cost more and more   
   >>> to overtake the real specs of what I have.   
   >>   
   >> Dude...give it up.   
   >>   
   >> You bought components and assembled a crappy POS mini PC...   
   >   
   >   
   > Um, no, it was assembled in China by a non-OEM manufacturer.  That's   
   > part of the whole point of this, assembling PCs is for gamers and other   
   > high-demand uses, your precious Apple hardware requires $1000+   
   > investment to get anything of the kind.   
   >   
   > Face it, my points stand.   
      
   Face it: you bought a POS.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> ...and then by implication claimed that it was equivalent to a Mac   
   >> Mini, but cost "far less".   
   >   
   >   
   > I didn't claim equivalence.  I claimed better value.   
      
   Far less performance for far less cost ISN'T "better value".   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> Truth is: it costs "far less" because it IS far less.   
   >   
   >   
   > It isn't.   
      
   It really is.   
      
   But I'm game for running benchmarks on my M3 MacBook Air against your   
   machine.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> And when challenged to show a mini PC you can just buy from an OEM   
   >> ready-to-use...   
   >>   
   >> ...you completely caved.   
   >   
   >   
   > What wasn't "ready-to-use" about mine?   
   It's the nature of the supplier with yours.   
      
   It's fly-by-night manufacturing from China with no real chance to get it   
   serviced under warranty.   
      
   That puts it in a very different class than machines from OEMs such as   
   Apple, HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer, ASUS.   
      
   Find a machine from one of the companies that is actually in the same   
   business as Apple that gives the performance of a Mac Mini for "far less".   
      
   The fact that Apple doesn't choose to sell cheap, low-end junk doesn't   
   make the value of their systems less.   
      
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