XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2026-03-06 12:56, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 3/6/2026 3:43 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> Exactly. To get Mac Mini performance from an established OEM...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ...you need to pay Mac Mini prices.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Thank you for being at least this honest. 🙂   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> HP is irrelevant to anything, and yet it is the brand I bought   
   >>>>>>> for a laptop.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> At least she had the balls (Ironic, isn't it?) to address the   
   >>>>>> question.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You're seriously trippin', Alan, it's a joke to think about getting   
   >>>>> a mini PC from HP, today.  The form factor isn't even really   
   >>>>> comparable. The basic point I made is sound, if you aren't   
   >>>>> hallucinating massive advantage from CPU alone (this point really   
   >>>>> *is* sometimes comparable to OEM PCs, which is what Apple is   
   >>>>> competing with on *price*), the Apple is going to cost more and   
   >>>>> more to overtake the real specs of what I have.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Dude...give it up.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You bought components and assembled a crappy POS mini PC...   
   >>>   
   >>> Um, no, it was assembled in China by a non-OEM manufacturer.  That's   
   >>> part of the whole point of this, assembling PCs is for gamers and   
   >>> other high-demand uses, your precious Apple hardware requires $1000+   
   >>> investment to get anything of the kind.   
   >>>   
   >>> Face it, my points stand.   
   >>   
   >> Face it: you bought a POS.   
   >   
   >   
   > Definitely not.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>> ...and then by implication claimed that it was equivalent to a Mac   
   >>>> Mini, but cost "far less".   
   >>>   
   >>> I didn't claim equivalence.  I claimed better value.   
   >>   
   >> Far less performance for far less cost ISN'T "better value".   
   >   
   >   
   > It's not far less performance.   
      
   Let's run some benchmarks and test that claim.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>> Truth is: it costs "far less" because it IS far less.   
   >>>   
   >>> It isn't.   
   >>   
   >> It really is.   
   >>   
   >> But I'm game for running benchmarks on my M3 MacBook Air against your   
   >> machine.   
   >   
   >   
   > I'm game for comparing what I do to the entire world's community of   
   > devices, not just Apple's trophyware.   
      
   Anything that prevents you from having to be pinned down to facts.   
      
   Let's run some benchmarks.   
      
   :-)   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>> And when challenged to show a mini PC you can just buy from an OEM   
   >>>> ready-to-use...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...you completely caved.   
   >>>   
   >>> What wasn't "ready-to-use" about mine?   
   >> It's the nature of the supplier with yours.   
   >>   
   >> It's fly-by-night manufacturing from China with no real chance to get   
   >> it serviced under warranty.   
   >>   
   >> That puts it in a very different class than machines from OEMs such as   
   >> Apple, HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer, ASUS.   
   >>   
   >> Find a machine from one of the companies that is actually in the same   
   >> business as Apple that gives the performance of a Mac Mini for "far   
   >> less".   
   >>   
   >> The fact that Apple doesn't choose to sell cheap, low-end junk doesn't   
   >> make the value of their systems less.   
   >   
   >   
   > My CPU is low end.  But it works better than you think.   
   Let's run some benchmarks.   
      
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