From: not@telling.you.invalid   
      
   Andreas Kohlbach  wrote:   
   > On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 07:06:56 +1300, Simon Geddes wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Jack gets a bad rapp for his "Jack attacks", and I'm not sure how well I   
   would   
   >> have survived if I ever had to work under him. But reading "The Home   
   Computer   
   >> Wars" the other day, it left me with a slightly different feeling - an   
   >> admiration for the man's sheer determination to win in business, and his   
   belief   
   >> in his own business "religion".   
   >>   
   >> I tried to distill out of the book the components of The Religion   
   (according to   
   >> the book, Jack called it this himself). It included a strong focus on lean   
   >> business (sounds very modern), reducing the number of layers of command,   
   >> expecting managers to "get involved" and not just manage. He was apparently   
   >> oft-quoted as saying "business is like sex. You have to be involved".   
   >>   
   >> Just wondering if there are any other closet Jack admirers, and whether they   
   >> can shed any more light on Jack's business religion?   
   >   
   > Well you have to admire him. Like you have to admire Bill Gates. Even if   
   > you otherwise hate them for being pricks.   
      
   From a customer's point of view I think you can admire Tramiel much   
   more than Bill Gates. Tramiel used his ruthless business strategies   
   to cut costs and therefore be able to profitably sell computers   
   cheaper than anyone else - opening them up to some home markets that   
   otherwise might have been priced out. Gates just did his best to   
   prevent other players from getting a strong foothold in the PC OS   
   market, so that he could get away with selling his software with   
   very high profit margins. Steve Jobs as well just convinced a   
   smaller market with more money to buy more expensive tech by making   
   it shiny and fashionable.   
      
   I'm sure you'd soon conclude that they were all pricks if you were   
   trying to compete in the same market as they were/are. As I remember   
   it, one of Tramiel's other sayings was "business is war". In my   
   opinion Tramiel did more to further the reach of computing as a   
   whole.   
      
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