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   Message 52,979 of 53,866   
   Joacim Melin to All   
   Re: Jack Tramiel   
   01 Feb 20 18:08:27   
   
   From: Joacim.Melin@f130.n2.z21.fsxnet   
      
    SG>   Re: Jack Tramiel   
    SG>   By: Dave Drum to Tristan Miller on Fri Jan 31 2020 12:24 pm   
      
    >> Jack, who dumped CBM in favour of Atari (nee Tramiel Technology Ltd.)   
    >> was just as much about money as Irving (Gould) and Medhi (Ali) who came   
    >> after him at Commodore and busted it out for fun and (especially) profit.   
      
    SG> I don't think he was really dumped. Irving sacked him. Not sure how   
    SG> that's   
    SG> possible, and what the actual reasons were. Some say because he   
    SG> wanted to bring   
    SG>  his sons in. Irving said he was worried about JAck's health, and   
    SG> didn't think   
    SG> he was the man to take the company to beyond a billion.   
      
    SG> Maybe Jack planned to build Atari up to the point where he could buy   
    SG> our   
    SG> Commodore and get his creation back. Something akin to the Steve Jobs   
    SG> story,   
    SG> where he was ousted but found a back route back in.   
      
   Several truthful sources have come out before and after Jack Tramiels death and   
   confirmed that while he wasn't formally fired (he resigned) his disagreement   
   with Irving was so profound he couldn't remain at Commodore. Irving, the   
   blood-sucking leach that he was, was very willing to keep spending Commodores   
   money on his own luxury lifestyle.  Quoted from Wikipedia:   
      
   "During a question and answer session at CommVEx v11 (July 18, 2015), Jack's   
   son, Leonard Tramiel, finally revealed to the crowd his version of what really   
   transpired between Jack and Irving Gould during the 1984 C.E.S. show resulting   
   in Tramiel leaving Commodore:[22] On January 13, 1984 during a meeting with   
   Irving, Jack told Irving that treating the assets of the company as his own and   
   using them for personal use was wrong. He said to Irving, "you can't do that   
   while I'm still president" to which Irving responded by saying "Goodbye". Three   
   days after the show, Jack announced to the public that he was resigning from   
   the company."   
      
   Irving was the one who drove Commodore into the ground. They would've failed   
   anyway with the PC standard taking over but they sure as heck would have lasted   
   longer than 1994.   
      
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