From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 12/02/2024 19:10, TimS wrote:   
   > On 12 Feb 2024 at 18:50:58 GMT, "Scott Alfter"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> In article ,   
   >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro   wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 17:06:21 GMT, Scott Alfter wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Both have blatantly unconstitutional gun-control regimes in place...the   
   >>>> sort of laws that the hoplophobes assert without evidence would reduce   
   >>>> crime.   
   >>>   
   >>> It worked in Australia. The secret is, it’s not enough to outlaw the   
   >>> assault-style weapons, you also need to have a buyback scheme to force   
   >>> them out of circulation.   
   >>   
   >> "Buybacks" are nothing of the sort.  The government can't "buy back" that   
   >> which it never owned.  Be honest and call it what it is: confiscation,   
   >> usually at nowhere near what the firearms involved are worth.   
   >   
   > We don't actually give a flying fuck about that. There was never any   
   > justification for these weapons to be in private hands anyway.   
   >   
      
   The problem with that, is where do you draw the line?   
      
   In the UK a handgun *of any sort* is illegal outside of competition use,   
   the police, or the military, it having been deemed that their *only*   
   valid use is killing people.   
      
   The same goes for pump action shotguns, all machine or automatic   
   weapons, and large calibre rifles.   
      
   About all you *can* get a licence for, is a bolt action rifle up to   
   around .303 calibre (I think: I've never seen larger than that in a   
   hunters hands) and a single or twin barrelled shotgun.   
      
   Or air rifles. Which can be extremely powerful and accurate.   
      
   Is this a sensible place to draw the line?   
      
   And whilst gangland shootings may be scarce, our middle eastern friends   
   have brought with them a culture of knives, the larger and more vicious   
   the better.   
      
      
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