From: tnp@invalid.invalid
On 13/02/2024 16:26, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article ,
> mm0fmf wrote:
>> On 13/02/2024 15:32, Bob Latham wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vaccinations certainly did work,
>>>
>>> Well I'm very sure they do not prevent transmission.
>>>
>>> Bob.
>
>> They reduce the likelihood of onward transmission.
>
> That's a new one, where did you get that from?
>
> Do I take that as a tacit admission that vaccines don't protect you
> from infection? Have we also dropped the notion that it helps if you
> get infected?
>
Oh dear. We have an ArtStudent™ mind. Stuck in Boolean logic.
You are asking an ArtStudent™ question.
The scientific questions is *how much* do vaccines reduce the risk of
infection, and the severity of the subsequent disease, and the answer
is, shitloads.
Anyone of any minor intelligence who actually thinks about it,
understands that. Vaccines increase natural immunity. It takes more of
someone else's virus load to make you sick and you wont get *as* sick.
So leave you stupid 'is it perfect?, if not it doesn't work' logic at home.
> So beforehand we were told - asymptomatic transmission, very
> important, anyone, even perfectly well people can give you covid but
> now, even people who are ill and infected are safer because of the
> vaccine?
>
> Do people cough, sneeze and breath less ?
>
Yes, they cough, sneeze and breath less virus load.
> Why then hasn't covid stopped?
It *has* stopped. Killing people.
Vaccines have brought it down to flu level - a bad week maybe in bed
with painkillers, and that's it. Not a life threatening infection with
people gasping for breath and dying.
I suffer when my blood oxygen goes below 90%, which it has done at times
when I was being loaded into an ambulance.
The [paramedics said 'its when its down at 50% an te patient is blue and
gasping for breath, that we put on the blue lights and sirens' I
saidf'whgen does that happen?'
'Covid'.
>
> My friends wife had covid for at least the second time a month ago.
>
Who cares?
Almaist everybody has had it by now
> My cousin who honestly is a GP somewhere in the Monmouthshire/Bristol
> border has just had it for the first time. Fully jabbed of course.
> I'll quote what she wrote...
>
> Cousin wrote"
> So sorry to be late replying .
> I have had Covid for the last week and have actually felt quite
> poorly . It‘s amazing that I have managed to dodge it for so long -
> my first Covid of the pandemic. Thinking that I‘ve had all the
> vaccinations offered and peoples comments that‘s it‘s ‘ like a bad
> cold now lulled me into complacency.
> I am starting to improve but along the way I have felt pretty unwell,
> breathless and lost my sense taste / smell .
> I have had to cancel 3 days of work which I hate as I don‘t like
> admitting illness .
> To someone who loves their food and adores eating experiences‘ I am
> going to be mighty upset if the sense of taste doesn‘t come back .
> Obviously I can‘t moan too much as being left on ITU on a ventilator
> is much worse !!
> Anyway I do feel I‘ve turned a bit of a corner today but (husband)
> has started sniffing and sneezing Œ..Oh dear .
> " end quote.
>
Lucky cousin. Without vaccinations she would probably be dead.
> I've seen no evidence vaccines do much good but they do do harm.
The evidence is that the episode your cousin has is now as bad as it gets.
If you cant see that, don't get jabbed and die in a respirator gasping
for breath, like so many others have.
>
> Bob.
>
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