From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 14/04/2024 19:51, druck wrote:   
   > On 10/04/2024 10:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >> On 09/04/2024 22:19, Adrian wrote:   
   >>> 40 was probably a one off (heat wave), but mid 30s occur every summer   
   >>> month.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've been looking at fan cases, but they all seem to prevent the use   
   >>> of the HAT, which means I won't be able to find out what the ambient   
   >>> temperature is.  I suppose I could design one of my own   
   >>   
   >> Seriously, you don't need a fan.   
   >>   
   >> Just a *ventilated* case.   
   >>   
   >> I am designing a case for mine right now, featuring a complete grille   
   >> in one end wall.   
   >>   
   >> Experience shows that as long as hot air can escape and draw in cooler   
   >> air, all will be well   
   >   
   >   
   > The Pi 4B will definitely throttle with only a ventilated case if it is   
   > anything other than sitting idle all the time.   
   >   
   I am not interested in proof by assertion   
   I had mine up to 130% on 'top' and it never made more than 76°C   
      
   > I don't see the point of letting it throttling when an inexpensive fan   
   > will keep it at full speed under any load.   
   >   
   I question that it will in fact throttle.   
      
   Like so much 'everybody knows'  when you look at it it is in fact   
   'everyone believes because people selling fans told them so.   
      
   The whole point of ARM is its lower power and lack of need for forced   
   cooling   
      
      
      
   > ---druck   
   >   
      
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