From: news-1513678000@discworld.dascon.de   
      
   On 2024-07-14, Deloptes  wrote:   
   > BTW the NUC and the kind of are not bad - but non had more than one LAN port   
   > + power consumption + price.   
      
   I paid 100€ for the D34010. Yes, if you need more than 1 lan port you need   
   to look elsewhere (in some use cases, a USB3 ethernet adapter might work).   
      
   There are current (Intel gen-12 and newer) machines that are in the ~5W idle   
   ballpark, but these tend to cost a lot more.   
      
   > It is a disappointment what happened after 2008 ... but not going into   
   > politics and economics. Just have a look at Alibaba/AliExpres.   
      
   I regularly buy chips and breakout boards there. Getting reliable   
   information about power consumption before you buy is a big problem, and   
   warranty/back-shipment costs is another.   
      
   Also, I am quite wary of chinese equipment using mains voltage.   
      
   I just bought a JBC-compatible soldering station from aliexpress.  It works   
   fine, but electrical safety is less than marginal: less than 1mm creepage   
   distance from mains to the non-grounded metal case is definitely not OK.   
      
   I had to build a new housing (and used a different, safe power supply).  In   
   this case it was worth the effort and I had considered this before buying,   
   but for a mini-PC, I would rather buy something that can be used out of the   
   box without danger of electrocution.   
      
   cu   
   Michael   
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