From: none@invalid.com   
      
   On 30/11/2024 10:50, yeti wrote:   
   > What is RasPIan doing differently now?   
      
   I don't know what they are doing but it fuc^W failed badly when I did it.   
      
   I have done numerous x86 in situ Debian upgrades on laptops, desktops   
   and VMs in data centres. All have been upgraded from Debian 9 to 10,   
   then 11 and then 12 as new versions become available. Follow the guide   
   on the Debian website and it just works.   
      
   But 11 to 12 on a Pi Zero W really mucked up. Sure I ended up with   
   something that would say it was Debian 12 and seemed to work. But after   
   a while I noticed the networking was a mixture of NetworkMangler and old   
   scripts that was an unbelievable spaghetti of mixed stuff. Also whatever   
   repos it was using, it didn't do kernel updates. And yes, I checked the   
   repos were correct in /etc/apt.   
      
   I had successfully upgraded in place from 10 to 11 on the same Pi Zero W   
   before. But 11 to 12 was a disaster.   
      
   No surprises a clean install and applying my changes brought me a v12   
   that works and isn't a mixture of 11 and 12.   
      
   I don't have enough minutes left on Earth to worry why and find out what   
   went wrong. Next time I will back up the 12 image + changes and updates   
   and try in situ update to see if 12>13 works. If it looks slightly iffy   
   I'll reinstall again. And I have the backup image should I ever need to   
   go back.   
      
   And I know I'm not the only person who found in situ update to 12 failed.   
      
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