From: not@telling.you.invalid   
      
   Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   > On 8 Dec 2025 10:29:08 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
   >> When you start Firefox from a terminal does it complain about any   
   >> missing libraries?   
   >   
   > When you run a GUI app in the regular GUI way, it used to write its error   
   > messages to the file ~/.xsession-errors.   
      
   Maybe your system did, I don't get any such file even running   
   programs that I know dump out errors, but I'm using TinyX. Oh and   
   a system running Xorg 21 doesn't have it either. Anyway it's easy   
   to run programs from a terminal window for troubleshooting and   
   a log would fill up my storage space with junk messages, so I'm not   
   interested in enabling that.   
      
   > Trouble is, lines in that file   
   > never had any timestamps or any other identifying information about where   
   > they came from. Under Wayland+systemd, you can now monitor those errors a   
   > bit more cleanly with journalctl --user.   
      
   I find journalctl unclean in all the most important respects, but   
   you're welcome to it.   
      
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